Ronaldos is about €1billion... However release clauses in spain dont actually mean **** in reality. Cant remember the ins and outs but they are not legally binding in anyway shape or form.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...mega-bucks-deal-stay-Barcelona-till-2016.html it says in here that messi's but out clause is 225million. Not as high as i'd have thought...
Actually I think the opposite about the manager situation. I don't think many people will WANT to be Man United's new manager at all, simply because who would want to try and maintain the success Ferguson has had? You're living in the shadow of one of England's best managers, quite possibly with a contingent of new players as Scholes, Giggs etc... have just retired. It seems like a poisoned chalice job, whoever takes it is destined to be compared to Ferguson and unless they turn out to be better than Mourinho they won't live up to the expectation placed on their shoulders.
I think this is exactly why Fergie hasn't retired yet. He knows as well as anyone that Man Utd are currently in the **** (luckily for them they have hit their transitional period at the same time as Liverpool & Chelsea... Heck even Spurs & Arsenal are at a point where they have to either prove they have the minerals to challange or accept that they wont win much outside of the FA cup for the next few years - Spurs need to succseed on making top 4 next season... failure will see them as one season wonders and they will not be an attractive option for a player (esp. considering they are also in desperate need for a stadium and a strict wage structure... hell their fans are salivating over signing Diago Forlan... FORLAN?!) and Arsenal's youngsters have proven toothless.. they stumbled through to the carling cup final narrowly avoiding defeat to Ipswich Town (who were in disarray after a change of manager) and then they lost to a Birmingham side who won only 2 games away from St. Andrews all last season. Fergie is staying on to lay the foundations and that is why I think managers will want to join Man Utd... They can join and make the changes they want while a core of decent players will be there (Hernandez, Smalling, et al) and while I don't know this for certain I can imagine Man Utd fans being more patient then Chelsea or Arsenal fans will be with their next manager
not going to quote (too long) but those 2 posts above are both top class. The first replacement for fergie will have the weight of the world on his shoulders, and anything other than a top 2 finish and a good finish in the CL will set the media alight. United in decline! and all that. I believe that is one of the reasons mourinho is a top candidate. He has the ego to either deal with the pressure and thrive under it, or if he doesn't succeed he will come out unscathed. Say, if Moyes took the job and failed, he would forever be labelled at a manager who isn't ready to step up from a fairly mid-table team punching above their weight. The second manager however, will have slightly less of an expectation and could well continue for a number of years. Bozz, i also believe that fergie is setting the groundwork for a future manager with all the new signings. He's trying to make sure that the next manager has a good first XI that can be strong and competitive for the next 5 years or so. This will give the next manager time to build upon this and the fans will probably be more lenient as we believe fergie to be the greatest manager of all time in some respects (please don't start a debate, i like this discussion atm) and we know that it will take someone new time to adapt. I think with the signings he's made we have a team which will be strong for years to come. De gea (all but done) Twin A Smalling Evans Twin B Valencia/Young/Nani Cleverly Jones/ A.Nother Valencia/Young/Nani Hernandez Rooney Add to this list the other youngsters we have coming through: Pogba, Morrison, Tunnicliffe, Norwood, and it seems that the next manager will have been given a solid team to start with. Also with Scholes, Giggs, VDS, Neville etc. all pondering coaching its not going to be a complete rehaul of backroom staff. There's also no way that SAF won't be involved with the Boardroom and he may well still be lending a helping hand behind the scenes.
That might be a managers only stumbling block... As a Liverpool fan I remeber Hodgson saying he feltthe spectre of Dalglish lingering over him all of the time... it could be the same for a future Man Utd manager and lets be honest... Alex Fergueson is intimidating and Alex Fergueson hates losing... that would probably bring more pressure to the job then the press and the fans expectations
It could in a way, but i think Hodgson meant that Kenny wanted his job, rather than wanted to help with his job. When SAF does retire I don't see him coming back as a manager. I meant as more of an advisor i.e when he and Mourinho sat down discussing tactics for Barcelona. It did sweet FA good but it shows that a working relationship can be had between two great managers as long as the respect one another. When a manager is chosen to replace him I reckon that SAF will have a huge input, so i doubt that he will disagree and try and take complete control.
Thanks for your post and the later ones in this thread as they show a clear and well reasoned argument. I would like to clear one technical point though regarding fiance. leverage buyout and debt management are 2 completely different things. Leverage buyout is normally considered as a short - medium strategy wherein the risk to the buyers is limited by securing the purchase and development debt on the asset being purchased. Normally, the strategy works when the value of the asset can be increased significantly to make it attractive to another buyer at a premium. It is the achievement of the premium that the leverage buyer seeks. Debt management is a related but different thing. In any organisation that engages in commercial activity debt is not, of itself a bad thing. Even the Church of England has debts (and just to show there's no bias so does the Catholic Church - it even has its own bank!). Provided that the revenue streams can be maintained or increased then the debts can be managed and hopefully repaid. This can only be achieved by careful management (I'm sure Eric can give further detail if you want it). However, when those revenue streams are threatened or the rate of growth slows or the general financial climate tightens then the debt itself can become a serious issue for even the most well managed debt management programme. Please note that I have not referenced United in the above explanation as I truly believe that it would be an issue for United's board
Returning to Mata. Apparently his father is his agent and has said that they will wait until after the U21's before they will consider the bidding. This seems strange that an agent should be in control of the process rather than the club and that he believes that there will be a bidding war.
I don't think Valencia are very strong financially so I would believe that a bidding war would be good for them. I don't think it would be too good for us though if the likes of City join in.
I think it's more interesting than that. Any player who gets a good report in the U21s will increase their value. If valencia have decided that they cannot keep him or that they need the money, then I could see them talking about a bidding war. However, the tone of his fathers statement appeared to suggest that he WANTS a bidding war - even if that means prejudicing his sons long term interests. He appeared to assume that he and his son would be the ones making the decision. Now that's strange!
