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Next England manager

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by HHH, Jun 19, 2014.

  1. Edelman

    Edelman Well-Known Member

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    Centre back and right back are gonna be the trouble short term
     
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  2. ellewoods

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    I dont see that at all. Your talent at current levels is plenty good enough to be winning on the pitch. It really is. You might think it isnt, but you dont watch non-european national teams. Your talent is better than just about all the talent that I watch. You lost to a Costa Rica team that we kick the **** out off. The American team, that you wouldnt want anyone to be on your team. The problem isnt foreign players, its how your players conduct themselves on the pitch. I am sorry but Rooney has one goal in 10 world cup games. Rooney is better than Dempsey, Dempsey has scorred in 3 straight world cups. Rooney is better than Donovan, Donovan scored in 2 straight world cups and has like 5 world cup goals. The problem isnt foreign players.

    There is something to be said when teams like Chelsea do not have acadamys producing english players. Something should change to make sure that happens. But your current players are far, far better than the level they are playing at. Unless you want to say that Beasley is better than Baines, or Depsey is better than Sturridge.
     
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  3. Spook

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    No offence, but being better than the USA doesn't mean we are good. We need improvement, mainly in the defence. Personally, I'd like to see Micah Richards at right-back and Leicester's young lad Moore at centre-back in the future. Davies should have gone to this World Cup but if he can't get picked at 29 he won't get picked at 31 for the Euros.

    I'd like to see this team in 2016:

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    Barkley could replace Rooney in that formation, I expect Ward-Prowse and Rodriguez to be in the squad by that time as well.
     
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  4. ellewoods

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    No offense at all. The US is ****. I simply mean that we play above our ability while you play below your ability. If you even played at your ability you would be a contender, if you played above your ability you would be a hell of a team. What I mean is that foreign players do not effect your teams ability to show up and do what they are capable of.

    Davies should have been there no doubt about it. Your manager should be fired for not bringing the players who were rock solid all year.

    Your team for 2016 has sterling twice.
     
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  5. PLT

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    I feel sorry for Lallana, everyone talks about him as a youngster but he'll be 30 by the next World Cup. He really needed to be getting games around now if he was ever going to make it. He gets put in the Sterling and Barkley bracket but he's way older and people don't seem to realise.
     
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  6. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I was sure he would be starting in this WC. Not playing for a big side? He keeps the ball well and should have played from the off.
     
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  7. Spook

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    If we qualify for the Euros in 2016, a squad like this would be quite promising:

    GK Joe Hart
    GK Fraser Forster
    GK Jack Butland

    DF Micah Richards
    DF Luke Shaw
    DF Gary Cahill
    DF Liam Moore
    DF Phil Jagielka
    DF John Stones
    DF Jon Flanagan

    MF Tom Huddlestone
    MF Jack Wilshere
    MF Jordan Henderson
    MF Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
    MF James Milner
    MF Raheem Sterling
    MF Adam Lallana
    MF Ross Barkley

    FW Daniel Sturridge
    FW Wayne Rooney
    FW Theo Walcott
    FW Jay Rodriguez
     
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  8. CANADATIGER

    CANADATIGER Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. This is probably the weakest US squad in 20 years but it has over performed despite the loss of Donovan (inexplicable) and Altidore, who is still the best striker we have despite his dismal season with Sunderland. Hodgsons refusal to consider Davies over the likes of Smalling has cost England as Jagielka has been a disaster and he should be fired as soon as the tournament ends.
     
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  9. BrisbaneTiger

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    I would fire Hodgson now, let Neville take over the last game. Hopefully we could claim back the cost of his room for the rest of the tournament...... Not to mention he won't be emptying the mini bar every night if he isn't there.

    As for the next game get the young kids in who are the future for us. Certainly drop the three clowns of Jagicoco the clown, Johnson Cairolli the clown and Billy "isn't Hodgson wonderful because he will keep picking me and don't need to play well" Gerrard Smart the clown.
     
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  10. GLP

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    Lallana has the Euros. Looking at some of the quality of other European teams, it will be a decent tournament.
     
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  11. GLP

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    I do think Hodgson has to go, bring in someone young, energetic, played to a decent standard and in touch with modern coaching methods. They could have an experienced number 2.
     
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  12. Amin Yapusi

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    Won't Jagielka be in his forties by then?

    He's no spring chicken is he...
     
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  13. BrisbaneTiger

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    I would certainly agree with that. We have tried the old heads as managers with no success, so let's try something different.
     
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  14. Mr. Coat

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    Short interview with Hoddle, saying a different manager couldn't A) bring in a centre back strong in the air or B) bring in a midfielder to sit deep and spray the ball around. Davies and Huddlestone?
     
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  15. GLP

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    I thought the same. Roy needed to go beyond Old Trafford and Anfield to see how well players were performing at less fashionable clubs!
     
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  16. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    Nowt wrong with Hodgson to be honest. Decent manager and looks to be trying to take a step forward both in terms of his on managerial philosophy and the national team. Despite our lacklustre campaign in Brazil I still feel far more confident in our ability under him than I have under any of our recent managers.

    I'm pleased he came here to attack and make an impression on the tournament rather than sit back and be cagey and hope to scrape by, I think he's trying to do the right thing and will start getting it right. I think he dropped a clanger by bringing too much inexperienced youth into the squad and leaving out seasoned pros, I think that showed with Barkley especially who didn't look anything close to ready for this level, but the experience of being there and playing may prove resourceful looking forwards.

    Who else is there to replace him anyway?
     
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  17. Carmine Galante.

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    Good point.

    His pathetic squad selections leading up to this debacle have definitely had a detrimental impact.

    He's never picked players on form, perhaps until the finals. Well when I say that I mean Sterling.

    He's selected some right dross and by doing so has stifled the progression of the national team.


    It's all Smallings fault.
     
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  18. PLT

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    That's a bit of an exaggeration.

    There's only really Smalling in the squad I disagreed with, and I think that goes for most people; the squad announcement was well received with only the left back situation really generating any debate. I'd love to have seen Davies go obviously, but he isn't young and even if he went and was brilliant, he isn't part of the future for the England team and he's only one player. We need a bit more. I don't blame the manager for anything that's happened, we just need better players in some areas, some more effective attacking play and a bit more luck than we've had.
     
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  19. Mr. Coat

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    Hodgson couldn't help Rooney taking his shot straight at the keeper. Any other day he slots that in the corner and his header goes in rather than hitting the bar. Hodgson also can;t be blamed for Gerrard mistiming a header with Cavani and our centrebacks allowing Suarez to move behind them, assuming Gerrard would clear the ball.

    We had chances, we didn't take them, we got beaten by one of the most in form players on the planet. Suarez's goals were both extremely well taken. I was a bit disappointed we didn't see Wilshire get chance to have an impact but then we only had 2 games, didn't get to the 3rd before being knocked out.

    There were promising signs and we weren't awful but we lacked that cutting edge and had a couple of lapses of concentration. Being drawn with both Italy and Uruguay was always going to be tough, considering we usually get the likes of Sweden, Cameroon or Romania.

    We still weren't as bad as Spain, who were completely disjointed and woeful.
     
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  20. BrAdY

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    atleast england have a new captain

    the pilot tehe
     
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