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Official match thread England V Uruguay

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  1. carlthejackal

    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    >" Even Stephen Hawking's "

    sure you are not exagerating here ? :)
     
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  2. Tobes

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    No mate, as Suarez was 20 yards plus beyond where the ball was landing, it was never going to reach him, as had Gerrard not gone for that header Jags was moving forwards to attack the ball, which is why he left the defensive line. Had Jags missed it as well, Cahill was between him and Suarez.
     
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  3. UnitedinRed

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    Lol donga.
     
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  4. Tobes

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    I've no idea what he could have done to prevent it, no.

    If he doesn't look to move towards the flight of the ball and Gerrard misses it, then he'd have let the ball bounce, which is a no, no.

    Once Gerrard heads it, he's out of the game, but he'd have still been out of it had he been in line with Cahill.
     
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  5. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    This thread is getting too tedious for words. Have a word, MODS <doh>
     
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  6. johnsonsbaby

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    It isn't true though. I've got a still from the youtube vid and if I could figure out how to post it ... Suarez is inline with Cahill as the ball drops onto Gerrard/Cavani, the speed of play together with the speed at which the ball travels makes it a hard decision for the assistant to call and given we've seen them go either way, it would have been very interesting.
     
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  7. UnitedinRed

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    Cant stand people who cant take stick but are willing to dish it out.

    Sad really.
     
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  8. Tobes

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    He's a yard beyond Cahill when the ball drops onto Gerrards head - fact. It'd have only been 'interesting' if the lino had made a bloody awful call as it was clear cut.
     
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  9. luvgonzo

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    Still going then. :D
     
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  10. johnsonsbaby

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    Do you know how to post stills from videos? <laugh>
     
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  11. Lucaaas

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    I personally think he could've cleared it, or at least altered the flight of the ball, if he was in line with Cahill.

    And if you watch it from the angle from above he actually gets dragged out of position by Cavani and follows him for a bit, and that's why he was out of position when Gerrard made the error.
     
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  12. johnsonsbaby

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    Have to agree with that. The 'back line' was a 'back arrow' by this point.
     
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  13. Lucaaas

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    This thread will last longer than England's world cup campaign <laugh>




















    (Not an achievement)
     
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  14. Tobes

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    It's possible I suppose. But equally, had he not moved towards the flight of the ball and Gerrard misses the header, then the ball drops and bounces in no mans land which is a no, no for a CB.
     
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  15. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I believe that watching the video I posted from time zero that jagielka was on cavani but both he and Cahill were dropping back, cavani just stopped and jagielka lost him then came out knowing he did then stopped

    It was already too late to attack the ball with cavani and too late to get back in line with Cahill

    The fact remains Gerrard was also backing up and that allowed cavani to leap much higher and that leap prevented Gerrard getting real contact

    The fact also remains the ball went right on Suarez toe without him breaking stride and allowing him to sprint briefly taking Cahill out of it

    Cahill was on Suarez as the ball was played and he left him go assuming he'd be offside

    I mean you could just as easily blame sterling for not blocking the keepers kick as single out any one of the three as the prime offender

    If if if

    If Cahill tracks no goal

    If jagielka marks cavani, prob competes for ball no goal?

    If Gerrard head it any other way at all no goal

    We may as well wonder if it occurred 5 mins later would Suarez have even be on or what if it hits hart in the chops

    The videos are glaring on all the goals
     
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  16. Lucaaas

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    Quality is **** (video was poor) but that white blurry dot just above Gerrard's head is the ball (think I paused the video just before he actually touched it) and Suarez is quite a bit offside. Gerrard made the main error and there's no denying that but that doesn't mean everyone else is blameless.
     
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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    You are right here, once he does lose cavani by those 2/3 yards he knew he'd not get to it, in an ideal world it would have been like 100s of similar premier league incidents where the cb jumps in that area with the forward.

    Once he can't he needed to drop off and that's where the two cbs got parted

    Again 9/10 that doesn't fall so nice and Cahill recovers to force the guy wide
     
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  18. luvgonzo

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    [video=youtube;rkoWJ8hlogo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkoWJ8hlogo[/video]
     
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  19. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Which is fine but pause it on 0 seconds too and watch cavani and jagielka. My point is cavani is able to move off

    Where you've paused it Suarez has already move across Cahill and is in behind
     
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  20. luvgonzo

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    [video=youtube;ffE4kwXStzM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffE4kwXStzM[/video]

    For UIR.
     
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