Not in the starting 11 but how about Chris Smalling? I've said all along that he should have started.
It really doesn't matter does it The only time we've looked like we could win anything was 1990 and 1996 because we had a good team with a world class player pulling the strings Other than that ( 1966 apart )we've been a second rate team at best
I agree with this, not necessarily Hoddle, but someone to go in and start from scratch. We are garbage, utterly ****ing garbage. If you picked a world class 11 - not one English player would even get close to being picked for it. Rooney is not world class before anyone pipes up.
I'm wondering if anyone has ever been called a **** so many times by so many people in one night? And I don't just mean on this forum, I mean anywhere, at any time in history. I personally very much doubt it.
1) Ricky Tomlinson 2) Jamal Mahmoud (he's managed to get Palestine into the top 100 ranked teams and they're ****ing awful. Also it'd piss off all the racists.) 3) Matt Green, because a) he looks like Father Jack Hackett was left on a sunbed too long and b) he managed the Spiders Nightclub football team to the Sunday League title. Say no more... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24549624
Have you ever seen Deadwood? You probably havent but should as you are going to be shocked by the number of times one person can say that word.
It shows how desperate we if we're considering a guy who has never managed at any level and one who hasn't had a job in the best part of 10 years.
I'm sorry that's too easy. We have no reason to be ****. Football is our national game, we have some of the best supported leagues in the world, and we are a nation of 45m people. There is no excuse for us not being able to mix it with the big teams. The fact that we don't, and that we are invariably **** cannot be accepted as a reason. I don't care about reaching the semis or the quarters - I care about seeing us participate. Some of our football tonight was the worst of the tournament. The league 2 play-off final had better passing.
When we have clubs and players who don't want to take part in U21-20-19s etc what can we do about it The FA doesn't have the power or balls to do anything so the managers of the respective England teams have their hands tied. Hence it doesn't matter who's in charge
Very easy to say that when we lost the game but our passing stats midway through the 2nd half were way, way ahead of theirs. Something like 77% to 59% accuracy. We made mistakes tonight, but lets not be typical football fans and exaggerate our ****ness when we lose (or our greatness when we win). We had a few problems in these two games and with hindsight, they're the same reasons we scraped through qualifying and never beat a decent side convincingly. We don't create enough clear-cut chances, people like Rooney and Sturridge don't have time to shoot properly, it's all quick snapshots. This needs addressing. We particularly struggle against a defensive set-up. That was evident in qualifying against the likes of Montenegro but also against Italy and Uruguay when we needed a goal. It's very similar to the problem's City had in the Championship in the last few years; once we go behind and they sit back we really struggle. The first goal is really important. Having a lot of the ball doesn't seem to make you any more likely to score, and when the mostly defensive opposition do break they actually look more dangerous because they're catching us with men up the pitch whereas our attacks are against a full 11 men. If that Godin had been sent off it would have been different, or if either of Rooney's early chances had gone in. We shouldn't have lost both games, but a combination of soft goals, not learning from out mistakes and a lack of cutting edge particularly when chasing have combined to **** us up. We need to learn from this. Plenty of big sides have ****ed up like this before. The fact we've never been knocked out in the groups for so many years (did the commentator say since 1958?) is a good thing. The likes of Italy and France have done it in the last tournament, and Netherlands failed to qualify for 2002 when ranked 5th in the world. Our failure isn't as massive as Spain's in this tournament. **** happens, but we need to learn from it and improve. Anyway, Hodgson for me. We need to stop chopping and changing.
The trouble is we won't learn from this will we. The English mentality is that we know best. We'll we don't know best do we. Go out to Germany,Belgium Spain etc and learn from there set ups. Otherwise stay has we are and moan after ever EUROs and World Cup
Yeah lets do what Spain are doing, they've looked ace so far haven't they? The English mentality now is to moan and moan and constanlty hype up everyone else and wish we were like them. Even the only side so far to have failed more emphatically than us.
The problem with Hodgson is that he's satisfied with mediocrity. He defends it. This isn't Fulham or West Brom, it's England. He has the nation's finest footballers at his disposal, and he's not using them to its potential. He's blooded some youngsters, fine. Someone else needs to harness them now. For me, England are only really any good playing one way - a swashbuckling, down the flanks, Premiership way. Dunno who can produce that, but someone needs to. We're getting worse with every tournament, not better. Think Hodgson has presided over another gradual decline of a team that has been descending since '98. We need someone to turn it round, not tell us we played well when we played ****. Hodgson has had two tournaments and, for me, we've got worse.
