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Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Mr.B, Jun 16, 2014.

  1. Mr.B

    Mr.B Well-Known Member

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    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/27869435


    OK, here's how I'm reading this...


    So we're not doing this for our own enjoyment. We're doing it for the future of F1. What should F1 do going forward? What should it not do?

    Luca and F1 have given us a blank sheet of paper to design whatever rules we like. So let's hear all your ideas - whether they're genius, humorous or ludicrous.

    Let's save F1
     
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  2. Mr.B

    Mr.B Well-Known Member

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    You might all be in bed by now, so I'll start...

    Tyres - stop artificially messing with tyres to make the degrade quickly.
    Driver aids - reduce electronic driver aids - I want cars driven my drivers, not by computers. No traction / launch control, ever again.
    Steering wheels - cars must use big skinny steering wheels like they have in old buses.
     
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  3. ched999uk

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    No wings at all, all bodywork to be vertical or horizontal (where possible). Pure mechanical grip.
     
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  4. Han Shot First

    Han Shot First New Member

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    I'd experiment with ground effect cars again, makes it easier to overtake the car in front, as it's being sucked onto the road so following another car won't mess up the airflow so much
     
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  5. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member
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    I'd start by doing away with the stupid tyre rule. Why must teams use both compounds, it just limits the strategical possibilities with no gain?
     
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  6. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    If you win a race, you are forced to tow a caravan in the following race.
     
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  7. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    I just thought of a brill new rule. If you drive a red car, you get bonus money, the option to veto rule changes and rule breaking forgiveness.

    Oh.... Hang on...
     
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  8. Mr.B

    Mr.B Well-Known Member

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    Cars must play ice cream van music.
     
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  9. Mr.B

    Mr.B Well-Known Member

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    We should probably have something for the serious posts to work towards, so here's my starter for 10. Let me know any changes I should make...

    • The rulebook must enable smaller teams to have success in spite of having smaller R&D budgets
    • A constructor that builds a better car must be allowed to benefit from their better design
    • Constructors with inferior cars must be allowed to improve them during the season
    • A constructor must not be unduly disadvantaged by having fewer resources available for in-season R&D
    • Only one team order is allowed in reach race, and that order must be declared before the race
    • Team orders must relate to the drivers' relative positions in the WDC before the race, or their relative race positions at a specific point during the race
    • A team order must be applied before three-quarter race distance
    • Telemetry data cannot be used as part of team orders, but can be used to determine whether a race result was manipulated outside of team orders
    • There are no mitigating circumstances that allow a change of team orders after the race has started
    • A car must not be excessively disadvantaged (e.g. by aerodynamic reliance & disturbance) just because it is close enough to attempt an overtaking manoeuvre
    • Taller/heavier drivers must be able to compete on level terms with shorter/lighter drivers

    Some questions...
    Driver aids - acceptable?
    Tyres - single manufacturer, or multiple?
    Engines - hybrid? Internal combustion only? Could we have something wacky like any type/configuration of engine is allowed, but with output limited to 900bhp.

    All suggestions welcome. Luca did give us free rein, after all.
     
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  10. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Sprinklers and shortcuts.


    The only way you can really make close racing is by capping performance bit then it wouldn't be F1. It's a double edged sword.
     
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  11. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    So Ferrari are having yet another bad year and di Monty comes out and says F1 needs to change again...........

    He didn't think that was the case when they were dominating for 5 years, pissing over the rulemakers with their veto's and damaging the sports reputation with their questional team tactics and dodgy decisions on a sporting finish.
     
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  12. allsaintchris.

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    Provided they can ensure that they can do something to keep the cornering speeds down, such as some kind of disturbance to the airflow underneath the car to negate full ground effect, this is a good idea.

    Without a restriction, the speeds the cars could do would be terrifying. The only limit being how much grip the tyres could give.
     
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  13. happyal

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    To be fair he's right in this case. The current show isn't very good, and if we are being honest the show hasn't been any good a at least a season and a half.

    The first thing that needs to be changed is to allow the teams to develop their packages during the year, because I think we all know that Mercedes cannot be caught this season.
     
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  14. eddie_squidd

    eddie_squidd Well-Known Member

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    If they are worried about falling viewers they should do two things:

    1) Make all races available live and free to air.
    2) Have proper live streaming of all races. Preferably free.
     
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  15. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    Naah.. making it PPV globally, closing down every single stream and removing every last trace of F1 highlights from sites like YouTube is the way to get viewing figures up.

    On a serious note though.... Viewing figures would rise significantly if they'd put Bernie in front of a tennis ball launcher and make him dance at the start of every event.
     
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  16. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    That would also allow Mercedes to further develop their package, so could continue to stay ahead.

    So far as the 'show' is concerned, it may be one team, but at least BOTH of their drivers are fighting each other. That cannot be said for the Ferrari or RBR years when it was just one driver walking away with everything.

    Monty will not be happy until Ferrari have their advantage back. It all smacks of continued sour grapes from Ferrari and their inability to design a decent car.
     
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  17. BamalamaFizzVaj

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    I'd probably go for something like:

    - A heavily restricted internal design; engine, gearbox, weight and power restricted, get rid of the turbo junk and go back to twin exhausts, 1.8-2.0L or more ERS if you want to stick to tiny engines
    - Some attempt made to reduce/counteract turbulent air, maybe a mandatory downward angled beam wing to aid down force to any car following close behind
    - Wider but shallower rear wings/aero, front wings seem to be ok right now, though i'd maybe bring them forward from the wheels and make them wider to help reduce turbulent air
    - Only 1 engine map allowed per race
    - Brake by wire is a stupid idea, get rid of it
    - FRICs and any method of modifying the suspension on a corner by corner basis banned
    - 1 gear ratio per weekend
    - Minimum driver + seat weight
    - Tyres that get softer as they wear down, could help reduce undercut and make pitting at the right moment harder to anticipate and more risky
    - Bring back Refuelling, equipment provided by FIA, there needs to be some kind of unknown element during the race and strategy to pit stops rather than just necessity to comply with the rules
    - 3 tyre choices and/or a wider spread and more deg again
    - 3rd team car raced by test driver, or maybe a sprint race after Qualifying
    - No parc ferme exceptions/exemptions, if anythings broke you start from the back or the pits, or you crash out
    - Full Wet tyres that actually get used/double points for races that start under wet conditions
    - Points for fastest lap/pole
     
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  18. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    Put Sand People on every corner!
     
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  19. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    So pretty much back to 2008 regs for the most part.

    Wow, that's progress for you.
     
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  20. Han Shot First

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    <laugh>.
     
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