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Defeat v Uruguay....

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chilton's Hundreds, Jun 17, 2014.

  1. Chilton's Hundreds

    Chilton's Hundreds Well-Known Member

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    ....does not mean we can't qualify.

    Just thought I'd mention it now before the media goes over the top on this supposed do-or-die game.
     
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    true.
     
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  3. Tuckin

    Tuckin Well-Known Member

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    It will if Italy and Costa Rica draw (or indeed if Costa Rica win) - admittedly a day later.

    If Italy beat Costa Rica and we lose to Uruguay, we can still get through IF we beat Costa Rica, Italy beat Uruguay and we have the best goal difference of the three tied on 3 points.
     
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  4. Chilton's Hundreds

    Chilton's Hundreds Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.

    If there are no draws then the permutations increase as well......
     
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  5. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    It really is a massive game though.
     
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  6. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    As long as Italy and Costa Rica don't draw we can still go through, whoever wins. Positions are separated by goal difference, goals scored, results between tied teams in descending order.
     
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  7. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

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    Yes, must win really when you think about it.
     
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  8. Chilton's Hundreds

    Chilton's Hundreds Well-Known Member

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    Yep.

    The fact Italy v Costa Rica is the following day will only compound any jitters if we draw/lose.
     
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  9. lewisc29

    lewisc29 Idiot

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    Draw or win provided Italy do the business over Costa Rica. I think we'll beat Costa Rica and there Uruguay would have to beat Italy.
     
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  10. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    I think Italy might struggle to beat Italy if I'm honest.
     
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  11. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

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    Italy will have to beat Italy?

    I know they're unscrupulous and corrupt, but that seems a step too far even for them.
     
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  12. BrAdY

    BrAdY Well-Known Member

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    do you even want to get through if you lose to Uruguay <laugh>
     
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  13. Tuckin

    Tuckin Well-Known Member

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    Nope. If we lose to Uruguay and Costa Rica beat Italy, CR will be on 6 points, and Italy and Uruguay will each be on 3 points and yet to play each other, meaning one of them will get to 6 or both will end up on 4. We'll be out.
     
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  14. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    You're right.

    Thankfully we'll obliterate Uruguay and annihilate Costa Rica, so it doesn't matter.
     
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  15. Tonight We Dine In Hull

    Tonight We Dine In Hull Active Member

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    It is possible to go through on 2 Points with 2 draws and a defeat so to suggest it's game over if we lose is wrong (I know this situation can't happen with England and that we might be out if we lose depending on other results, I just found this interesting)

    P W D L PTS
    Team A 3 3 0 0 9
    Team B 3 0 2 1 2
    Team C 3 0 2 1 2
    Team D 3 0 2 1 2

    Team A win all games
    All other games are draws but Team B lose to Team A by less goals than both Teams C and D and they would go through.
     
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  16. over18and legal

    over18and legal Well-Known Member

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    My view is simply......If we lose we don't deserve to go through.
     
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  17. Tuckin

    Tuckin Well-Known Member

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    Another possibility is a four-way tie on 4 points - as in Ireland's group in 1994. All four teams also had a 0 goal difference, so it came down to goals scored.
     
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  18. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
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    As over18and legal has said, if we can't beat any of the teams in this group, we deserve to be come straight home.

    And be shot.
     
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  19. lewisc29

    lewisc29 Idiot

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    If we finish second or first, then we do deserve to go through.
     
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  20. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    It would be funny if all the games in one group ended 0-0. Would they send the final group games through to extra time/penalties to decide who advances or would FIFA do a draw to decide which 2 teams advance?
     
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