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Young has now officially signed

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  1. MUFCOK

    MUFCOK Active Member

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    Sanchez will be double the price but I think if I had a choice right now, I would still take Young because you are right, the risk factor is much lower. Young is already proven in this league and will undoubtedly flourish in a team with much better players around him. He has the second most amount of assists in the league for the past 5 years. That is impressive whatever way you look at it. We know what we are getting with Young. We know he is a good, quiet lad who never gives any managers or refs any trouble. You won't hear him in the paper criticsing anybody either. Ferguson knows what he is getting with Young so I trust him.

    There are also reports we are still in for Sanchez and that he has rejected City and that United have probably offered more money than Barcelona so if Ferguson is still in there for him then he must be a decent player.
     
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  2. Sam Axe

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    A winger should be quick, able to dribble and be a good crosser. From what I have seen of Sanchez he does not have the 3rd one which is why I believe Young is a better signing than Sanchez would have been.
     
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  3. Valencia25

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    Please don't delude yourselves, any sane person would take Sanchez over Young. There is a reason, Man Utd, City, Barca, Inter all wanted Sanchez signature and there is a reason why Liverpool were are biggest rivals for Youngs. Young is a very good player but Sanchez is much better and has much more potential and is 4 years younger.
     
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  4. Jason Hudson

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    I don't think we are buying Young as a direct replacement for Giggs though or slightly less specifically just for his wing play. I think the way we play allows for some leeway with regards to wingplay. Nani is just as comfortable on his left as he is on his right. He isn't an amazing crosser of the ball but he can certainly put in humdingers but he has the ability to come inside and play more centrally. With Sanchez, we wouldn't expect him to just stay out wide like Valencia. With his ability he should be looking to come infield and link with the forwards. It's a trade off, so with Valencia, we don't expect him to come infield and link with the forwards, he isn't good like that compared with Nani for example.

    All I'm saying is that Young isn't a out and out winger and nor is Sanchez but they would bring different things to the party. Even forgetting Sanchez, the four "wingers" we have now all can do the basics well, but it's the variety in their play that should make them lethal in the right setup.
     
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    I remember watching him when he first started at Watford and always thought he had a bit of class about him. I'm really pleased he's joined such a massive club as I think he'll fit in really well. His crossing is excellent so Rooney, hernandez, berbatov etc. will love that.
     
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  6. MUFCOK

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    Yeah I remember when Watford come up in 2006-07 I think it may have been and he was the standout performer for them that season. I remember being relieved after he signed for Villa because I thought if he had gone to a bigger club that would have harmed United in future title races. Anyway he's a player I have admired since then and I am very happy he is here.

    Also I read a stat on Twitter that behind Henry, Bergkamp, Beckham, Fabregas and someone else I can't remember he has the most assists in the whole Premier League era. That is a fantastic stat. In only 5 seasons as well
     
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    hargreaves,scholes,neville,vds,bebe on loan all out and we sign jones and young,any other comings and goings
     
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    giggs was terrible playing in the middle in the final,he offered 0 defensively.all our cm have to help out defensively.
     
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    Rio is teething saying he has a nickname... YOUNGY ...

    That didn't take long to think up <doh>
     
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    I expect a keeper to come in and maybe a CM but that is it.
     
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    Disappointed with this, and it's not because his name isn't "exotic".

    He's just an up-and-down English winger, the type that Villa specialize in. Will make zero difference against the likes of Barcelona.
     
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    Who would make a difference then that we could realistically sign?
     
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  13. stopthepress

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    I don't think we needed to sign a winger at all. It's the central midfield that needs strengthening.
     
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    I think as far as Barcelona is concerned. There is no player we or any other club could sign to bridge that gap. A fluke win is the best any team can hope for. Barca will be the better team for a number of years now.

    As for Young i wasn't keen on the idea of him joining, we have signed him so i just hope he can deliver what ferguson sees in him.
     
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    But does that mean we should give up trying?

    Mourinho had a game plan, although admittedly it failed last year. Chelsea under Villas-Boas will have a game plan. If AC Milan and Juve were strong, they'd have a game plan as well.

    I hope I'm wrong, but it seems like Fergie's contenting himself with "only" winning domestic honours, and leaving Europe to chance. He might not even sign a central midfielder, because in his eyes Carrick and Fletcher are good enough.
     
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  16. MUFCOK

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    I get what Julias Caesar is saying. That is why I asked you who you think we should sign to bridge the gap. The answer is nobody. Whoever City sign with all their money they will never be better than Barcelona. Why should United go and spend £35m or whatever on Sanchez when most likely he wouldn't suddenly make us better than Barcelona. We should trust Ferguson because he knows how to build a team. If he has gone out and spent this money on these players then we should be happy with them. He knows what is needed to improve this team. I believe we are the 2nd best side in Europe as has been proved over the past 5 or so years. We don't need big improvements but we should know now that for a while Barcelona are going to be top dogs.
     
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    On Manutd.com it's reporting that Brown, O'Shea and Gibson have all agreed personal terms with Sunderland, tho' Brown is still hoping to stay in the North West. Jonny Evans may leave, although if Varane doesn't arrive he may stay. Berbatov's future is likely to be decided in the next week or so according to recent gossip.

    As for comings, a keeper will obviously be arriving, 90% likely to be De Gea, and a CM is very likely to arrive, but at this point it's impossible to say who with any great certainty. Varane now looks to be moving to Real Madrid.

    We need Young as a left winger for next year's PL. For our first three defeats in the league last season we were short on the left side. Against Wolves and Liverpool we had Giggs down the left, and against Chelsea we had Nani down the left and Fletcher down the right. With extra cover on the wings we could well have picked up a few more points in those matches which could have been crucial in the title race had the other clubs not been so inept. Next season we have to assume all the chasing pack will be better prepared and we will have a real fight on our hands, so we will need more than just two wingers and one wide midfielder (Park).

    I have no doubt that we will also sign a CM, but in order to get the quality of player we want it's going to take a bit longer. We were able to grab Young and Jones so quickly because both of them wanted to leave their current clubs, their contracts made it easy to get them, and there was relatively little competition. Players like Sneijder, Modric, Sanchez, Pastore and other top CMs are all being targeted by other big clubs and their current clubs are determined to either hold on to them or to get as much money as they can with no pressure to sell. So the CM is bound to take longer to sort out.

    But there is no point in sitting on our hands waiting for the CM to arrive. Buying players like Jones and Young with strengthen our squad, particularly given how thin we ended up being in CD and on the wings at point last season. Also, the PL is always the number one target - winning the domestic league consistently is far more important than doing a Chelsea and constantly fiddling with the players in a desperate attempt to win the CL. Finally, strengthening the squad makes us a more attractive prospect when trying to land the big names - it shows them that they can expect to win more trophies with us both now and in the future.

    All in all, a good bit of business signing Young imo, and I'm very happy with our activity in the transfer window thus far <ok>
     
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  18. MUFCOK

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    I can't find anything on manutd.com about them 3 leaving. Though I believe it is inevitable. Won't be too fussed about Gibson leaving but will be very interested to see him in a mid table side. Probably his true level. With Brown leaving it is like an end of an era. No more 'He's big, he's bad, he's Wesley Brown' on the terraces! And I feel with him, Nevlle and Scholes leaving, losing 3 local lads in one go is quite strange for United. I will miss O'Shea the most. Mr Versatile. Good player when called upon and is something of a cult hero at United, as is Brown. No more 'When Johnny goes marching down the wing' either! Two of our biggest songs being put to bed. I won't be surprised at all to see O'Shea as Sunderland captain next season. His experience will be key to them. Hopefully Brown can stay fit for the season as well.
     
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  19. Swarbs

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    It's in the gossip section of the site. So obviously not official news from the club, but at least recognised as having something to it.

    It'll be a shame to see Wes and O'Shea go, but Wes has looked past his best this season imo. O'Shea is a funny one - I'd have expected him to stay for next season as he did a decent job for us when called on this year. But if SAF is willing to let him go then I guess he's satisfied that John's no longer up to the level required. And apparently Liverpool are considering bidding for him, which means he's no more than mid table quality at best.
     
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  20. Jezz511

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    Not too keen on the young signing, not a bad player, just not what we need. If we get a CM aswell it will seem like a great addition to the squad. People are questioning it more because we haven't made that midfield signing. If we had signed say, sneijder first, i think everyone would have been more pleased.
     
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