Who am I talking about here... 1.76cm Spanish Came through Barcelona's youth system. Played most of his career as an attacking midfielder. Honestly.. Fabregas is like a far more talented version of Arteta. He's quicker, a little taller, scores more goals, better vision and a better range of passing. I can't think of a better player we are could realistically sign.
They've always mis-used him. Much as they did with Ibrahimovic. I suppose he wasn't good enough either?
Cesc is not a DM and will be wasted in that position similarly to how you said Barca mis-used him. We need a DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER and guess who isn't that? Cesc. And then a forward, a RB, and a GK. Cesc should not be high on the priorities list at all.
I don't doubt that Cesc would cover the playmaker aspect at a higher level than Arteta can manage, but would he be able to cover the defensive side so well?
Fabregas is a tenacious player and he would be just as good defensively as Arteta and a massive upgrade in all other areas. As a deep laying playmaker, with Ramsey as the box to box and ozil sitting up the field we would have an amazing midfield. He isn't the dm to break up games but we have flamini for that role. In a lot of games fabregas would be the preferred option, it's only a handful of games a season where we really need an enforcer type tbh. For me it's a no brainer. He is world class, he is versatile, he is otherwise likely to go to a rival, he can give the team a lift, he is already suited to the prem etc etc etc... The list goes on and on. It's clear we should sign him if we can. Add a striker, rb and a back-up keeper and we are looking tasty. If a lwf is available grab them. But honestly we shouldn't pass on fabregas, it'll bite us in the arse quicker than you could imagine.
I really dont know what you think he is going to do NOW , any better with Giroud up front than when he had Van Persie in front of him . All this talk of him " coming home " . wtf ? he WENT home . Arsenal is not his home . Barca is . IF we spend money on a player we already sold once , its LESS to spend on the players we actually need. like a man who scores goals , period. apart from the top teams our defensive record was pretty sound , as was our midfield , but we wasted so many scoring opportunites. THATS what we need , a finisher , not another assister , however good his assists are . IMHO of course .
Well in all honesty I am only semi-neutral; I am a big Wenger and Arsenal fan for the way you guys play the game. Speaking for myself, I would love to see him back in the Prem, and would hate for him to join Chelsea, Man U, and he is very unlikely to be joining Liverpool. I just feel he is one of the best chances you have got of adding genuine quality, and not missing out to the bigger spenders. Yes you need a striker, GK, and RB, but look at Chelsea last season and they came close without anything really up front!
Part of me is hoping Wenger is deliberately waiting so that at the last minute he can come in and take Fab, and leave Moaninho less time to change plans..........however this is Wenger, so I highly doubt this scenario.
Not sure why everyone's going on about a DM when we don't play that way. I would like someone strong and battling shielding the defence, but it's not going to happen. But I remember Cesc was pretty good defensively, a good all-rounder in fact. If we did get him then I can envisage a Cesc and Ramsey partnership behind Ozil.
That's true, both Chelsea and City will get better. Chelsea will finalise the Costa deal and Maureen and Wenger's long lost brother will have had a whole season with their squads. Arsenal need to strengthen to keep up and Cesc would give us a significant boost.
As part of the buy back clause, if any club come to an agreement on a transfer then Arsenal have first option at that price. Maybe we're just letting Maureen do all the leg work, set up a fee and a deal and then swoop in there on deadline day in classic last minute Wenger style ...
Classic Wenger style is missing out on all his transfer targets, realising he's annoyed a lot of fans and then deciding to spend loads on whoever he could find that was available and expensive in order to appease people by appearing to 'buy big'. Ergo, we won't get anyone we're linked with (Fabregas, Bender, Vela, Griezmann etc) but will probably spend something like £40m at midnight on deadline day on someone we don't really want or need like Barkley.
Totally hack sources are claiming Cesc has agreed to join Chelsea. http://www.givemesport.com/472760-cesc-fabregas-agrees-to-join-chelsea But given the source I wouldnt get too upset, most prolly bullshit
We DONT need a defensive midfielder!! Our current system doesn't even accommodate a traditional holding player. Also I guarantee Wenger signs another attacking midfielder.. Probably French and almost certainly vastly inferior to Fabregas.
That's pretty much it. As much people want a DM, the manager doesn't set his teams up with one. Cesc was born to play Wenger's system and he would fit in like a velvet glove.
It's precisely how Arteta plays. He protects the defence, is always the man at the back to whom the defenders pass to, and his defensive work allows Ramsey to get forward much more. He's the clubs top tackler, top passer, second top interceptor, and both Kos and Mert took more shots than he did last season; he's not an attacking force. Cesc would be wasted in that role. Ramsey is our all-rounder and, in my eyes, Cesc's natural successor, with Wilshere as his cover. Both are our future. For too long we've complained that Wenger doesn't look after his defence, that he should buy a proper DM. Then, after a season in which, outside the four horrors, the club only conceded 21 in 34, won their first trophy an ages and managed their biggest points haul in six years the suggestion is that we replace our link between defence and midfield with a more attack-minded player. I don't see the sense in it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-in-Chelsea-transfer-deal-with-Barcelona.html Telegraph reporting that Barca want £30m but we want to pay £27m as that would mean Arsenal miss out on a cut of the profit. But its not a deal breaker apparantly....
hehe I made no bones about it in a previous post, half of it is selfishness in that I want Chelsea to sign him, the other half is that Arsenal really do need to look at a Striker and RB first imo. I still think you'd be mad not to sign Cesc to be honest, a ready made World class player, who counts as homegrown, is relatively cheap and has ties to your club and knows your manager.....its a no brainer really. But its looking increasingly like you are going to lose him to us.