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Apparently we have 'triggered' Fraizer Campbell's 'release clause' ...

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  1. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    I'd agree ..
     
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  2. Oldsparkey

    Oldsparkey Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    You're obviously a very agreeable fellow Fosse........<laugh> Now let's all look at this logically......<whistle>

    For argument's sake, let's assume that Cardiff have received an offer as reported of approx £1M from Leicester for Campbell. We're led to believe that would trigger a release clause allegedly set at £800K. Cardiff would then be contractually obliged to allow Campbell to talk to the offering club and negotiate personal terms. If no other offer came in for him, Campbell could then insist on the move to Leicester and Cardiff would be powerless to prevent it.

    On the other hand, if another club came in with a better offer, le'ts say an offer of £2M for him, Campbell would be quite entitled to talk to that club as well. Now the big question is...........who would then have the say as to where he would end up? It's obviously a contractual matter and it doesn't mean the just release figure would necessarily buy him.

    Cardiff would obviously like to take the bigger offer, but Campbell may well have been offered better terms by the underbidders and would therefore prefer to go there. With no idea of the specific contractual terms both he and the club are working under, the statement that he would go to a club offering the release figure is very wide of the mark. If theirs were the only offer on the table, then fair enough, but he ain't gone yet and may prefer to bide his time.
     
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  3. Proud Fox

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    That Suarez clause was a complete waste of time as I'm pretty sure most clubs will let players know when they have received a bid for them and if they don't I'm sure the agents will find out anyway.

    While there may be more stupid clauses around like the Suarez one, most clauses mean if you receive an offer of a set amount which is written into the players contract then you have to accept and once you receive a bid matching that amount then the club are powerless to stop him going.
     
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  4. Oldsparkey

    Oldsparkey Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I'm getting a bit confused here pal - nobody is arguing that once the release figure has been triggered, then the club cannot prevent the player from going.

    What you are saying is that he must go for that figure and there are no other options available to him or the club - that is wrong. Even if the release figure is offered, the player is under no obligation to go to the offering club, nor any other club for that matter, it just provides him with the unfettered right to talk to that club. If someone else comes in with a better offer, he can take that up (or not as the case may be).

    Cardiff have no right to prevent him from leaving if the trigger is activated, but to say that he will actually go for that release figure is naive if a number of bidders are in for him.

    If you are the only bidder and he wants to join your club, fair enough, that will be his choice alone. Like I said, and with experience of his father who heavily influences him from the history with Hull, maybe he'll hang around waiting for other options - it wouldn't be the first time.
     
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  5. Proud Fox

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    No one is saying there are no other options, right now the ball lies solely with Frazier Campbell. He can choose to stay at Cardiff, he can sign for us or he can wait and see if other clubs come in for him. With it now public knowledge that he is available for 800K clubs that are interested in him will make there move now if anyone else does want him.
     
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  6. LeicesterWizard

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    If Campbell can talk to any club that bid over the minimum fee release clause, then he could take any offer, no matter what the transfer fee is, Cardiff wouldn't be able to stop him going to the club that offered £1m rather than the club that offered £2m.

    For Cardiffs view, you would kind of assume that Cardiff would get "paperwork" done faster the club for the club that offered the higher amount and would probably stall the smaller offer to try and get him to sign for the bigger amount, although this is crafty i've no doubt that this would happen, though why someone would bid £2m for a player they could get for £1m is pretty silly.
     
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  7. Oldsparkey

    Oldsparkey Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Agree about that Wizard, but it's just a question of market forces and what a club would need to do if they really wanted him.

    There's little doubt in my mind that Campbell would be in the box seat regarding his final destination, bit I also doubt that it's contractually as simple as that.
     
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    Oldsparkey Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Agreed..........Phew, that's a relief. Maybe a misunderstanding, but for a minute there I'd thought you'd said.............

    Implying the club has no say in this at all may be correct, but I doubt it's as contractually as simple as that. <ok>
     
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    Cardiff have to accept the offer but Frazier Campbell can do what the hell he likes
     
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    Assuming there could eventually be more than the one offer, which offer would Cardiff have to accept?

    Are you saying that Campbell could chose which club he went to irrespective of the offers?
     
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  11. Lesta Gangsta

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    But surely the interest in Campbell is simply because his release clause is so very low an that he wants away. I think if Cardiff are hoping that there's so much interest in him we all end up in a bidding war and ends up going for around £2m, they are going to be very disappointed.
     
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    All the offers you will get will be 800K, why would anyone bid more?
     
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    Quite simple Proud - they wouldnt!
     
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    This article attempts to explain away Campbell's poor scoring record by implying his career has been hampered by injuries, but the only conclusion I draw from it is that his scoring record is still poor AND he's injury prone to boot!

    Still, compared to, say, Hull's signing of Nick Proschwitz, this would be a low cost risk if it didn't pay off.
     
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  16. LeicesterWizard

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    These 2 things are in no way linked.


    Yeah ... thats NEVER going to happen.
     
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  17. originallambrettaman

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    You can have Proschwitz on a free if you want, we'll even pay some of wages for you and I'll drop him off. <ok>

    In fact, his cost wasn't that big initially, only about half the amount quoted was paid up front, the other half was triggered when we got promoted.

    Fortunately, he's Bruce's only transfer cock-up so far and he can be forgiven for getting just one wrong.
     
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  20. Lesta Gangsta

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    What you should have said is: although Prozzie's transfer fee was higher, his wages demands were considerably lower (I would imagine).
     
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