Off Topic Dark Matter and other Astronomy information.

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Your buddies at Cern are thinking it is possible to go faster than light. Don't they use electromagnetic force to shoot these particles about. They claim to have achieved it
http://planetsave.com/2011/09/23/ce...ed-maybe-physics-world-excited-but-skeptical/

The limitations at Cern is energy input. As much juice as they have it has nothing on cosmological energetic events. I did real somewhere "infinite" energy would be required to achieve the speed of light in the accelerator, or near infinity? what the cack is near infinity? infinity plus -1? -1 billion? yet it is a term used on theoretical theory. Near infinity and infinity actually are nonsensical plays on words for lack of a mathematical solution. The very idea of infinity is at odds with physics, it has to be. Nothing linear goes on without end imo because it is not possible in a cyclical energy transfer universe.

so if the guys at cern can use magnetic and electric force to as they claim surpass the speed of light, what can this same force achieve in cosmological terms with much greater magnetic and electric force, we could be way off the mark and the speed of light is akin to 1mph on the grand scale.

I mean this would be huge if they have achieved this and Einstein's work would be actually proven in part utterly incorrect.

breaking the speed of light cannot be reconciled with Einstein's theories and equations but I guarantee you they would try reconcile them anyway. They have yet to reconcile quantum physics and probably will never do.

 

Blackpower research, looking good.


By applying a very high current through its proprietary water-based solid fuel in BlackLight Power’s breakthrough Solid Fuel-Catalyst-Induced-Hydrino-Transition (SF-CIHT) technology, water ignites into brilliant plasma, an extraordinary bright flash of extraordinary optical power that has a power density of over 1,000,000 times that of any prior controllable reaction.

This would suggest a working model of the electric sun model and so far there is definitely no working model of Solar fusion.

http://www.blacklightpower.com/

 

So... electric theory is all wrong according to some
New research findings. Something the EU theory have been saying for years. This anti science as RHC called it is predicting all manner of events accurately.

if the sun can affect our atmosphere in this manner then climate science is absolutely 100% incomplete.

UK researchers: Solar wind causes lightening on earth.
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-27406358

[video=youtube;67wOTlKmeoA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=67wOTlKmeoA[/video]

 

This is the nature of science. If the theory is shown to have some validity, then it will gain acceptance.
It's not a conspiracy to keep people ignorant, it's a cautious approach designed to not impulsively accept some new attractive theory without thorough research.

 

exactly, the earth was flat according to some at one point and generally accepted.

 

Tell that to Georg Cantor.

 

If anyone is interested in real weather forecasting and climate science. I suggest Piers Corbyn, brother of the labour MP.

Predicting hurricanes 80 days in advance and predicting the path, predicted the 2010 snowfall that climate science said would not be happening by 2010.
When the BBC heard of Piers' predictions, they invited him on air, his cab never arrived and when HE called BBC they said they swapped him out for the government's chief science officer.

How can someone who gets it right, without CO2 factoring, Piers Corbyn be ignored and people who have got everything wrong, the climate change IPCC scientists, get listened to, it's just not logical.

http://www.weatheraction.com/pages/pv.asp?p=wact45

 

philosophical maths.


Infinity is an outcome of a broken equation. It is unquantifiable in mathematics. It means never ending. There is no number that fits it. A symbol for it in mathematics doesn't make it any more acceptable.
What's worse is how they compute infinity in some sciences.
You can do it, you take any value and divide it with 0, 0 will go into 1 over and over and over for ever, this is how things are infinite in astrophysics.
In my mind I can't help but think that if you divide by zero in an equation it changes nothing, and if your equation outcome is altered by the division of a value by 0 then your equation is broken

 

If you accept math's, you accept the concept of infinity. If you don't accept math's, good luck!

 

it's not a number. mathematicians say this. I reckon that carries some weight. Saying "if you don't accept infinity as a number you don''t accept maths" is the stupidest thing I have heard this year, sorry mate no offence but that is a stupid comment to make.

can you tell me what number infinity minus 1 is please?

 

How can you divide anything by nothing?

I thought the universe was infinite?
It was the last time I looked, anyway.

 

I believe in 1+1=2 but not in mathematical computation of infinity by diving by zero, does that mean I don't accept maths?

infinity is a word assigned to something mathematics cannot deal with. That's what happens when you put words into equations

You cannot divide anything by 0 and change the outcome, yet they do this in astrophysics often

 

I guess the best way to see infinity is as an end result, a concept which mathematics does not deal with and it is an philosophical explanation, which is why the Greeks gave it to us with their philosophical maths long before Georg Cantor.

It can only be an end result to explain something the mathematics cannot with numbers.

infinity cannot be entered into an equation as a multiplier, a divider, an addition or a subtraction. You cannot divide, multiply, subtract from or add to it.

 

Not again.

I agree that saying "if you don't accept infinity as a number you don''t accept maths" is a very stupid thing to say. Which is why I never said that. Nor did I imply it. If you can prove that I said, or implied, that infinity is a number then please produce said evidence. Until then, don't put words in my mouth.

Depends, can you tell me what 'sophistry' means.


P.S. Mathematics deals with the 'concept' of infinity all the time, e.g. asymtopes.

 

If I understood you fair enough. Duly noted.

not familiar with the word asymtopes but I am assuming it is geometry related, infinity is common enough in geometry. The end result infinity, not a number because in a case such as this infinity is a place holder for a number that keeps changing. To do the actual real mathematics on it, you would actually have to do the maths forever and never reach the end, hence the placeholder "infinity". It is a description of a circumstance even in this case and not a value you can use mathematically and again it is an end result that cannot be used in another equation thereafter because it is only a description of something the numbers, actual numbers, cannot represent. it is an idea, a concept if you will. This is why it is always an outcome, again one ever to be reused in further computations.

how would one multiply infinity? Or add 1 to it. it is a description.


Natural numbers odd and even, if you were to separate them and count them all odd numbers first, you would never finish counting the odd numbers to get to the even numbers. That's the problem with infinity in maths.

 

Also in this universe, there is nothing linear that goes on forever, yet in mathematics that is what infinity suggests in some applications of the word.

 

lol I knew I knew that word from somewhere after all just dawned on me, Asymptote. Black holes Again infinite space time curvature and Asymptotically flat or curved.

 

When diving 100 by 33. Maths leaves a remainder to avoid having to infinitely add .3 to the answer. There's maths avoiding infinity like the plague

 

Technically dividing 10 by 3 is as impossible as diving it by 0. Doesn't avoid it, just makes it simple for our minds to cope with.

And that's my contribution to this thread