BBC - Liverpool make bid for Lallana

But a new manager will get all these assurances from the board and things will start to happen. I feel like Poch was a lame duck at the end and everything festered around him. Not good, but should be fixed soon.

 

It's bad enough that in this weird world of football people can be forced to work somewhere they don't want to work. If the guy wants to leave, it's disappointing as hell, but it's completely unethical not to let him. We want a good deal and not to be taken for a ride, obviously, but if his mind is made up then we have to respect it. You can't use the fact that he is extremely well paid as an excuse for what is essentially paid slavery.

"He has a contract" is bullshit reasoning too. I'm sure many of you on here are on contracts but you're still free to leave your job if you wish. It's a fundamental right.

 

then you have to ditch the whole transfer market concept. or he could just, you know, not sign long contracts.

 

Hmm, people need to remember we are only hearing the players side! Of course it will paint the board in a bad light. AB is being used as a mouth piece for the players and their agents. He should have used his head more and stayed out of it, because I can see this hurting his career. The more I think about it the more I think the players are way more at fault then the board. You notice how it isn't every player bitching? The board stay silent because they are trying to deal with this crazy **** storm.

How do we know the board aren't communicating with the players? We don't! All we have heard is the players side. As for Lallana wanting the club to show him respect, how about he learns what respect is before demanding a move.

 

We don't even know if that is true any more. The more I think about it the more I think it's players spoiled by Cortese and not liking how the new board don't arse lick them as much. That and a few others wanting to join a team that is in the CL. But they don't have the balls to say it is them wanting the move in public.

 

Yes, on the face of it, buying and selling workers is ridiculous. Reforming that would radically change the game but we can keep it and not be totally unethical if we just respect players' wishes and move them on when they want it.

Would you really be comfortable showing up to watch a player who is only there because he was forced to stay and doesn't want to face the repercussions of refusing to play? It's ridiculous. Just respect the guy's wishes.

 

You don't need to have sympathy for him to see that ignoring his calls (if that's what happened) is stupid - all it can possibly do is worsen the relationship between Lallana and the board and if they want him to stay they need to build that relationship up, not destroy it.

 

The board may be doing some things wrong but now Adam is starting to piss me off. As club captain and 'loyal servant' he should be trying to steady the ship, not throw his toys out the pram, even if he does intend to move on. Get him out if he doesn't want to be here, and buy a replacement, or the closest thing possible. We may need to say goodbye to some faces from the past if we are to rebuild and become stable, and people need to accept that. He's not leading by example and it's far from what I'd expect from our captain.

 

I am a teacher. I can't just leave when I want. I have to give at least a half term's notice. Where is Adam's notice? If he wants to go, he has to put in a transfer request and wait for the right time, like those of us in contracted work have to.

 

I think the noises out of Saints are pretty clear.

Sales will be on our terms. Also, I think we can see that deals will be done, as the club would like - after the World Cup.

Same position as Shaw, then. One is loose-lipped and one is just getting on with preparing for the biggest moment in his career to-date.

 

that's my thought. they've been spoiled by a 24/7 father figure and they are left with the nuts and bolts of the football club and a new public face who does nothign for them.

I'm sympathetic to some degree though. Cortese's role was valuable and I think it's short sighted of the club not to have dealt with that. Allowing the manager to be the sole champion of the players is probably not sufficient.

players are fully at liberty to negotiate release clauses etc. Lallana evidently did not do so and he is in the unfortunate situation now of being contracted to an organisation that ostensibly does not need the money and wanted by a club that doesn't want to pay the piper.

I've certainly got reservations about keeping him. As I said, I think we need a new captain.

 

If you walk out of work tomorrow, what can they do other than give you a ****ty reference?

 

And what if the board said no? And AL didn't like the answer so bitched to Blackmore knowing he will spill it?

 

They're ignoring calls because he keeps banging on about it. I guarantee it.

 

In other lines of work you don't need a release clause. It's a basic human right that covers you there.

 

As Joe said, If he doesn't want to be here then he should go. To me that isn't cutting your nose to spite your face, it's more that his mind has been made up, if quotes are to be believed. He doesn't see Saints are going to go the same direction as his thoughts. I pretty much don't care if he's here next season or not, if he is then fine, but if all the things quoted are true then it's best for all our minds if we move on, surely. Thanks Adam for the good times will always remember them, bit annoyed at the 25% sell-on though..

 

I would struggle to ever get a job again (dreaded black list) and I wouldn't get my pay and I would lose my home and I suspect my wife would leave for doing such a terrible thing to our family and...

 

and nor are there transfer fees. yes the system is derived from an indentured servitude system. arguably there should be no fees paid other than severance penalties and the odd golden hello.

that would ruin the academy model wouldn't it.

 

If they've spoken to him and refused to sell I have no problem with that, but they really shouldn't be ignoring any of his calls. If the board really think he's such a valuable asset and want him to stay at the club then they should be trying to keep things as amicable as possible. Taking a few phone calls may be irritating but it isn't particularly difficult.

 

also int he real world creditors int he same trade don't get to take their fill before HMRC. it's a silly business this football