the tosser Phil Smith for his lack of acepting he f@£$ed up and blabing to Bristol rovers in a blatent atempt of revenge.
Can we put David Walliams in? I'm sick of his gay act over Simon Cowell on Britain's Got Talent which is as funny as treading in a dog turd in bare feet!
what annoys me is how they refer to him as this great comedian - he has one act, which is to be very camp which isent funny after long. Yeh ill second that
Thirded, definitely. David Williams is not remotely funny. Tbf, Graham Norton can pull it off. Although I suppose it's more genuine for him while for Walliam's it just an act for cheap laughs.
Fourthed, or whatever that would be. Can't stand the bloke, whatever good he's done. Couldn't stand 1 second of Little Britain or that other twat who was in it. Made me shudder.
I had a long conversation with my son and he came up with the following points: 1. Playing in under 21 and under 18 leagues does not give them proper experience. They are playing against other "unders" and getting no experience of playing full League football against men. When suggesting this can be achieved by loaning them out the killer punch came 2. If you had a son who had been signed up by (say) Arsenal, would you want him to be loaned out to Accrington Stanley, training with Accrington players and being looked after by the Accrington medical team or would you prefer them to be training with top players like Ozil, Ramsey, Wilshire, Arteta, Sagna etc, under far superior Arsenal coaching and being looked after by the far superior Arsenal medical team. 3. Future potential England stars should be getting full League football experience against men but groomed properly not thrown out to "third rate" teams and left under their coaching and training. I'm sorry but I couldn't argue against what he was saying. All I could say was that the "third rate" teams in lower leagues would suffer because there would be a shortage of players we could obtain on loan. Although I suspect the ones we could get on loan wouldn't be the ones playing in the new league.
two very good points to be fair, and a lot more sense than Greg dyke is talking! however many current loan deals stand that the players will train, at least part of the time, with their parent club and are still looked after by the medical team of (to use your example) arsenal for anything serious. Also do you really think the under 18s/21s train with the first teamers? no, they train separately, often at separate times and the only time they tend to work with first teamers are when they are returning from injury or when they are being disciplined (training with the youth teamers is a common punishment for players with a bad attitude, and does that really help the youngsters significantly?). Also being out on loan brings players away from the isolated bubble to learn more about what "real" football can be like - all of a sudden instead of playing with and against kids their own age, they are playing with pros of all ages, abilitys and experience. My main issue with it is how damaging it will be to the lower leagues as we know it. Attendance's will decrease (outside of real and barca, the rest of the B teams around the world struggle to get anywhere near the average attendance of that league), you will have teams of players that regularly change and wont care too much about the lower leagues. Will we be able to see tactical moves between the teams? For example if man united B had a crucial game, would they be able to use Januzaj and other first teamers who are technically young enough, therefore putting the teams playing against them at a competitive disadvantage? Which sides would get a B team? what if, for example, Stoke City wanted a 'B' team, then in 5 years experienced a leeds-esque decline and ended up in league 1 alongside their B team? if that B team was therefore removed, how would it be replaced? Also will this really help our young English players? At the moment what happens to most the youngsters that are sent out on loan is they don't make it and end up being transferred away. The B team proposal in time I think would be used to implement the big clubs signing more and more players, including foreign players, and instead of rotting away in the reserves they rot away in B teams Its my opinion that developing our young players must start from grassroots level - better facilities and better coaching, and less pressure by the press on youngsters! As oppose to the B teams. Having said all that, perhaps im a little selfish in favour of the way which would suit Wycombe better, as I would be furious if one year we missed out on promotion because of Manchester united B!
Good points again raised ron, I don't have many stats personally regarding anything other than the attendences. It would certainly effect how many away fans come to our games, and the strength of the league as a whole really - players certainly wont be as keen to play in almost empty stadiums every odd week, at least every club in this league has a core of at least 1000 home fans at every game For the stats on attendance, Ill show bundesliga 3, the Germany equivalent of league 1. It average attendance last season was 6,071 , around the same as our league 1. It contains the 'B' teams of Dortmund and Stuttgart, who both attract an average of a little over 1000. These are the 2 best supported B teams in the country, and all they get at home including away fans is that. It gets worse when you look at the map and see that they are both 2 of the most accessible teams to get to = more away fans. games involving stuggart as the away team are also the lowest average in the league, suggesting they don't bring any away fans either as for the coaching, as a referee I have a lot of chance to be involved in junior football and there is such a mixed bag at that level between coachs and parents who really care but are a bit useless, those who don't care and see it as a free baby-sitting service, those who insist on teaching the kids the ugly "win at all costs" side of the game and those who are excellent coachs. the facilities also vary dramatically as well - some have pitchs of all sizes, goals of different sizes, astro turf, 3G, training equipment, islolated fields with groundsmen, the lot! others are just a muddy "one size fits all" council owned field
I don't give a toffee about future England stars. Plus, having 10 B teams or whatever it is could potentially seriously mess up the league system all the way down the ladder. Firstly a new league which includes ten conference teams would mean suddenly there's 10 teams in the conference that need to get replaced, meaning ten teams from Conference North/South (presumably five from each), thus each league would require five from the league below, and then five from the league below that and so on, so ultimately it would cause a huge headache and loads of potential issues, especially when you consider some teams will be liquidated and chucked out the leagues, and especially in the lower leagues some might not have the ground grading to replace the teams in the league above. Secondly, it could completely ruin the leagues they're in. What if B teams fill all the promotion slots from League 2, then no real teams would go up. Is that fair to them? Or whatever if B teams were in the top 4 or 5 positions, they can't get promoted from League 1 so what happens then? Does the team finishing in 6th go up automtically? Along with the team in 7th? Then 8, 9, 10 and 11 would be in play offs? It would just be ridiculous. Or the other way round, what if B teams finish in all of the relegtion zones in League 3 or the Conference (or whatever is the minimum level they could play at), they couldn't go down so teams that would normally finish comfortably mid table are suddenly relegated. It's ridiculous. Not to mention the crowds. No B team would get more than a couple of hundred people going, even Accrington probably get bigger crowds than any B teams, and their away support is probably non-existent which will have quite an impact on attendance incomes. Four B teams in a league, means four proper teams not in the league. Plus even for home supporters, seeing a B team of some random Premiership side isn't that big a draw. Who would you rather welcome to Wycombe.... Mansfield or Newcastle United B? Oxford or Liverpool B? Portsmouth or West Ham B? Honestly, I thnk that's a no-brainer.
