Disappointment at our fans

What time is the show starting tomorrow?

 

Ach I knew it alright but we'd be playing the first leg of the game on my patch

Interesting Wubba. I'm giving those Sites a good look right now.

 

As someone who remained positive all season I expect no apology or humble pie to be eaten from anyone who didn't. Saturday was a joyous occasion that unites us all, the believers and the doubters. It was the moment we all got to truly celebrate, because let's face it, we didn't after Faurlingate! This was unadulterated delight and I am happy to share the moment with every fellow R however they felt before Saturday or feel going forward. Say we are Qpr we are Qpr!!!

 

I like this drift off topic. There are some very passable Japanese whiskies Swords. I'm not supposed to drink spirits often, but there is a fantastic bar in Kobe called Alco-Hall where it's compulsory. Its a windowless basement with a bar salvaged from an old hotel or something, a massive dark wood L shape which takes up 80% of the tiny space, leaving about 10 seats for customers. Two barmen serve two drinks - a 'cocktail of the week' and whisky - at least 100 different types. I had a delicious Ardbeg, but only the one. They cost about £13 a go.

It's just Swords doing one of his over elaborate jokes lads. If you don't like it, ignore it.

 

Well that's bloody charming that is. Give a bloke a compliment in an OP and get a slap in the face in return.

Don't know why I bother sometimes

I think that's harsh Nines. I never said all the fans, in fact I never even said a majority of fans. But there can be no denying that there's been a sizable chunk of our support that have been on the team and Manager's backs all season and those who defended what the squad and coaching staff were doing got a fair bit of stick for it on a regular basis. They were called dreamers, happy-clappers and cuckoos the whole time. Now after its all worked out they're pretending they were behind the team all along. There's a deviousness about it all and it doesn't sit well to be honest.

Maybe expecting a small measure of humility was asking too much. Perhaps I overestimate other peoples moral code.

Its a shame.

 

Perhaps you forget that many on here have spent an awful lot of time and hard-earned money on following our team home and often away and have been underwhelmed at many of the abject performances from the most expensive squad ever assembled in the Championship by the highest-paid manager in the history of the championship.

To then have some self-appointed 'moral judge' demand apologies for comments passed throughout the season after some of the dross we have had to witness is, frankly, even more odious considering that judge lives in another country and assesses everything from TV highlights or pissy streams.

Were you at Forest, Charlton, Brighton (no chance), Sheff Wed, Blackburn? I thought not. Those who were are perfectly entitled to question the appallingly poor performances and to consider we were on a downward slide (which we were). The eternal optimists (to their credit) kept ignoring these performances and hoped it would come right which it did, in spite of Harry, as we all know had his chosen substitutions taken place it's unlikely we'd have won.

Any comments made were relevant at the time and no-one is going to apologise for any that are made when players have taken the piss as happened on many occasions...

 

Right, so those who knew it would come right and repeatedly said so were lucky and those who repeatedly said we'd crumble to sh*t were unlucky in their predictions? Got it. That's some logic right there pal.

Almost as crazy as the logic that we won on Saturday despite Harry. I wonder were you one of the one's clamoring for the eventual man of the match to not be let near the team???

I've explained before that there's an advantage to not being in the thick of it, so to speak, because you can view things from a somewhat objective, detached viewpoint. The fact that you're blowing you're top on this thread more than anyone else leads me to believe that you're just extremely pissed off that you may have gotten something wrong.........................................................for once.

 

Wrong.

a) Ian Taylor confirmed on the podcast today that clint didn't sub himself Vs Derby, it was redknapps brainwave. They all conferred, but it was Arry's idea.

b) Even so, what's wrong with subbing a largely ineffective winger (hoillet) when you're down to 10 men? It's what every manager would do. Traore had to be switched to LB as a result though, which largely blunted his influence. Who's to say that taking Hoillet off wouldn't have freed up Traore to deliver that cross instead? We'll never know

 

You don't wanna know what the ladyboy got on 'it's' hands

 

Hypocrite. Do we really have to trawl through your posts at the time of our debacles barely a few weeks ago? Consistency is the one quality you didn't have. So don't waste my time. As Col says how about a word about Saturday itself instead of stirring it to make yourself look like a visionary and loyal supporter

 

The Eagle has landed.

You can't remember the little squabbles you and I had all season Yorkie, particularly after the Blackburn game when you said I was speaking through my arse that we'd still go up?

For God's sake, show a bit of class would you? You lads were wrong and instead of manning up, you try and bullsh*t your way out of it.

I wouldn't have had to stir a thing if you had made the gesture. I didn't stir this up immediately. I gave you three full days but you let yourself down. Its only today that I felt like I had to step in.

Like I say in the OP, it really is disappointing.

 

When I was one of the positive ones last season (I recall some very good debates with Col and Bob) I was misguided in my optimism. Should that have warranted an apology? I doubt it - the collective disappointment of relegation was enough for everyone surely.

In this instance, surely the collective euphoria of promotion outweighs the need for point scoring and told-you-sos? I think the word is magnanimous....

Questioning Redknapp's tenure has been perfectly reasonable if you consider some of his comments last summer (he needed so much money or he's walking etc). I for one, have and still do have my doubts but, since the season started, there's been no time I'd consider suitable to call for his head (and won't do so now). In fact, I think that Harry himself has warmed to the challenge (perhaps the sport's psychologist is to thank) so it's only fair to allow people to grow to appreciate him.

In terms of the team, a lot of the same can apply (coming to life in the last few weeks etc) and although the league position has been consistently good, it seems to be a fairly universal opinion that the performances haven't been great. Given a situation where you were watching less than convincing performances for the most part, coupled with injuries to key players, wouldn't it be natural to have doubts about our chances to sustain a push for promotion?

I, for one, have been fairly fluctuating in my views largely based on the first hand views of the guys on here and I thank them for the insight that the brief highlights and meagre column inches don't portray.

I notice your list of positives haven't felt the need to call for mass apologies under threat of having their "opponents" browsing history dredged up for the purposes of feeling superior...

Perhaps we could try to ensure that any future Wembley visits are visually enhanced with flags for all saying "Swords was right - 2014" or perhaps that could be a banner. Maybe you could embark on an open-top bus tour to the apologetic millions while previous posts are flashed across large monitors?

Even better, let's put the above ideas on a poll so that a potentially informative and useful thread gets bumped off the bottom of the page at the expense of another point-scoring display of one upmanship?

Personally, I reckon a, if a few posts get deleted and the header gets changed, this could turn into a decent whisk(e)y thread.

 

You're hilarious, Travis. Where would we all be without QPR's own version of Tony Hancock?

 

Well Betty, is waiting what stuff you manage to divulge tonight....getting excited....

Ok I will come clean...I am still a 58year old trucker called Vern....
What other diamonds will you tell us.
We all enjoy healthy debate, we all have different opinions.
We have the best board anywhere. We all pulled out all the stops to get 40,000 fans to Wembley.
We had a great meet up where everyone was great and had fantastic time.
Bring out your worst Swordsy.......we can take it, because this forum is United.

 

I think it is fair to say it was a very fine line between success and failure at the conclusion of the season.

One of the best (if not THE best) moments I have ever experienced at football came out of the blue really and I was sitting there waiting for the inevitable Derby goal just before that.
However, the fact remains we did it and HR deserves praise for that. He brought Charlie Austin, Richard Dunn and Gary O'Neill in and they were a key part of that victory. He stuck with BZ who was instrumental in both semi final goals and scored the winner on Saturday, he stuck with JB who seems to have galvanised the team along with Clint Hill and Rob Green. You can tell from the interviews afterwards that a siege mentality had been created amongst the players. There was a togetherness amongst that team that was missing earlier in the Season. That sort of mentality does not come overnight. I think some of us have been caught up with the rubbish we have read in the media about how we should walk this league. Why was the same not said about Wolves? or Leeds? A lot of the press do not like us and most neutrals probably wanted Derby. Despite all of this we managed to win the match but I don't think we were lucky. We defended gallantly and had to take one of the only chances we had. We took ours and they didn't take any of the few decent chances they had. But they didn't have many if you watch the game back again, they just had loads of possession (similar to us for most of the season ironically)

Yes, it is a fine line but credit where it is due to HR. No humble pie here though Swords and you will have to spend a lot of time trawling through my posts to find any anti-HR stuff. Having said that, everyone is entitled to there opinion and I am sure they are all glad how it has worked out as they are all QPR supporters after all.

 

Loretta. Brilliant, we have a new nickname for our Chelscum wummer!
(Anyone got the Life of Brian clip bookmarked?)

 

Spot on. I think that really shows us that he's not who he says he is.............he's not QPR...........can't be!!
The generosity of spirit on here leading up to the final was really something to behold. Then the fantastic meet up with so many of us prior to the game culminating in THAT wonderful Wembley experience. We were all totally QPR.

 

You can't all be me, Col!
Btw, I was in Hennessy's for a half hour (12-12.30), what a party, what a day. We are QPR!