I just cant see how tewlling a player how useless it is is going to do his confidence any good, is a shame that some people feel the need to abuse players performances, but I suppose thats football
it's the passion...but sometimes it's just misplaced. Sad. i could almost (though not quite) understand it if he was on a huge wage and we were a top flight club, we'd expect perfection..but we're not..and he's not...so they should lay off!
I understood it wit Ellington, so much expectation, But drinkwater. Loach, come on a loanee and a academy boy
i know...i hate it. There are people behind me that spend 90 minutes moaning, i swear i don't know why they bother coming!
I know how easy it is to agree with this sentiment, but I can't see any credible counter arguement. My fear is Baz will think this "bumper Summer fire sale" can be repeated every year, but the fact is so much of the £6m already raised is cash on the table now means that next year's cash will need to raised with fresh player sales. I'm waiting for someone to suggest that the club has a "special" dividend to shareholders! Dyche will really need to be a miracle worker.
Elixir, surely if Loach was sold and the 6m that you speak of is completely not reinvested and withheld, then there is no need to sell next year as we will have already raised the money. Despite what is most people's opinion, he is not going to be that stupid - for a start there is the Board. He knows he needs to make the payment next year, are you suggesting he is go to pocket the cash this Summer, then just think he can raise raise a few million next year? I have doubts about him but I give him a little more credibility. It is in his own interest to use the money on the debt as he has a far more valuable asset if the club has no debt.
Ah, but Drinkwater was genuinely rubbish (not that I've ever booed any Watford player, ever... not until after the game at least) and is not one of 'us' whereas SL is our man and he has the potential to be a world class keeper, he's already a top shot stopper. If only he could command his area with a bit more authority.
Loach should not be sold for less han £2m - before last season we were talking of him as £3m+. He has had an off season - you do not sell your assets at the bottom of the market. We should only accept a low figure if we feel he has permanently "lost it" Who knows - a new manager may spark him back to life. Anyway - you never accept an opening bid. People who boo individual players are not helping either that player or the club
Agreed about the booing. We had the same problem a little even when we've been in the playoffs! I was going to make a thread asking what you thought about Loach, now I don´t need to! So... basically he's kind of like Dorus De Vries? Good shot stopper but ropey at everything else? At least Loach has time on his side...
I'd say he's a keeper with a lot of potential, but hasn't quite kicked on like we hoped he would last season. He is prone to a few mistakes and not sure he instills too much confidence in the back 4. Most of his 'prpblems' can be worked on, and you wonder if he has stagnated at Watford, especially as he is easily the first choice without too much competition!! Maybe a move would be good for him. I'd say about £2m would be a good deal for both parties as he could very well greatly improve and be worth much more!! As for a replacement for Watford... Do we go for experience or another youngster? Would seeing if David James coming back be worth it, just for a season or 2 to bring on our next youngster?
I'm not against selling Loach.....but one good season and his price will go up quite a lot. We've got to think.....Gilmartin isn't up to it and Bond isn't ready so I don't think it's the right time.
Until last season SL was doing well. This last year he does not appear to have progressed. All I read is that he is a good shot stopper but does not command his penalty area and has a habit of dropping crosses. If all the managers who report on here can see this and I have as well why can the goalkeepers coach not see this and talk to him.
Well De Vries is 30 and still can´t deal with crosses... I think some things you can be coached as much as possible, but if you haven't got it naturally then you simply haven't got it!
I would snap their hands off at £2m, I know SL has great reactions but his control his area is terrible He is not vocal enough which is surprising considering we have Alec coaching him! But over the last season he made far too many mistakes for my liking, yes RG made a howler against Brighton but that is all i saw of him. I was at the preseason game at Northampton and thought (if memory serves) that RG did OK. Yes I appreciate against lower league opposition but hey that is who we were playing!
Thing is Loach has got it but as discussed elsewhere (not not606 perhaps*) he has probably been confused by all his international training 'Too many minds - one mind'. (any budding Barry Normans want to name the film? ) *...actually it was Norway who suggested this on these very boards and I wholeheartedly concur! Plus I hope we keep him, this could be a big season for him here and the vultures are circling when his monetry value, perceived or otherwise, is arguably at its lowest.
Yes it's a shame that Loach had a pretty poor season last year with the amount of mistakes he made. This year would be the wrong season to sell him, as his a very good goalkeeper, if he had a good season in 2011-2012 we could see his transfer fee pushed more towards the £3m that it was talked about before. I'm not convinced by either Gilmartin or Bond stepping up to start for us. Also, haven't Swansea signed a Polish goalkeeper? On the point of Twitter, I'm sure all footballers get ridiculous abuse from their own supporters after a poor game. Scott is one of the view who is brave (or stupid enough) to retweet them (which translates to showing the abuse to his followers). I don't analyse every detail of abuser but it seems to come from 1 or 2 people. If I was Scott I would just remind myself that he probably earns in one month what they earn in a year, that he's living the dream as a professional football and he's been in the England squad! This is just a minor downside that comes with the profession. Even golfers like Lee Westwood get abuse.
Still no need for it eh emiatss, I saw one tosser from cardiff having a badmouth session against DG! a couple of days ago on twitter! Seems it has its fair share of numpties!
I wouldn't be against selling Loach. But if we do sell, we cannot afford to hold back when we try to buy. I think the goalkeeper slot is the one position where the Watford Way goes out of the window. If Forsyth fails, we'll get over it. If the new striker fires a blank, Sordell will surely get into double figures, and our midfield always surprises us by chipping in. If the goalkeeper is not up to it, we will probably go down. Loach doesn't fill me with as much confidence as I expected him to at this stage of his development, but it's hard to see him having a tougher season than he's just had. If he doesn't want to leave unless he knows he can play, and we don't want him to leave unless we're certain his replacement will be as good from day one, I don't see any urgency. Unless, of course, billionaire Bassini in his eternal wisdom feels that selling is in "the club's" best interests.
