Accusations of racism.

Am I really missing the point Norway?

Hiding behind the topic of race, Libertarian has decided he wants to hang Jack Uzi out to dry.

This issue was being dealt with in a thread and the few who were discussing it had their say. But Jack had put Libertarians nose out. How dare he!! So what does Libertarian do? Create a thread for the whole forum to do a bit of Jack bashing in order to humiliate the guy and to boost his own massive ego.

Unfortunately for him there are a few regular posters who can see exactly what he’s up to. His continued belittlement of fellow Swans posters for their misuse of grammar and use of bad language when constructing arguments is well documented. He likes being in control. He doesn’t like being questioned. He doesn’t like having his nose put out of joint. So Jack’s comment was too much for him to handle. Jack had to be hung out.

For my sin I pointed out that this wasn’t the first time the Libertarian/Vetchatarian has been accused of racism. That is factually correct.

There followed from Libertarian and his follower a host of abuse – this from a man who only over the weekend was trying to belittle Swans fans for using bad language when constructing arguments. Hypocrite is the word that springs to mind.

The race issue is a red herring. And remember what is in your signature!

 

You turn a blind eye you are either ignorant or one of these very people I'm mentioning. Which makes you either stupid or a traitor. If traitor you are my enemy.

Upset at them yes, as they wipe out whole colonies. You neglected to mention I mentioned the local doing the same thing.

 

The evidence is all around. Why on earth would MP's and the government put signatures to a violent group such as the UAF soon as there was rise of nationalism in this country. Come on it's not rocket science. Why is grooming of thousands of girls not mentioned in the media, how come before the election there was a massive drive by the media to smear UKIP.

 

As a historian I've read plenty on the subject

 

From your opening link;

"The UAF and SWP are both Marxist organisations.

As they bring political/racial/religious violence to the streets of Britain, they are also part of the zionist created ” clash of civilisations” agenda – most UAF supporters are too politically unaware to realise this."

So if you meet anyone who is against fascism and you accuse them of being part of the "Zionist created 'Clash of Civilisations' agenda"...and they don't know what you're talking about...your accusation is still correct, it's just that they don't know that they are part of the agenda because they are politically unaware.

What happens next Tom? Do you smash their face in?

It's fascism Tom. The only people who politically unaware are the people who wrote that **** and the people who follow it.

Out of interest have you ever read Samuel P. Huntington's 'Clash of Civilisations' Tom?

 

Oh yes indeed you are.

Maybe Jack should have either kept quiet, or provided the proof when asked, he did neither.

Put Vetch's nose out, he accused him of being a racist ffs, wake up PGF, a member cannot go around and do that, then fail to provide any proof when asked.

Are you telling me, you are ok with Jack going around calling someone racist? Because from what I can gather, you are not saying a bad word about what Uzi did, and the only mention is "put Libertarians nose out". Damn I thought you were better than that.

I guess someone has to try and defend a guilty party though. Guess thats you.

Whatever you think of Vetch, what Jack did was wrong and cowardly. Yet you sit there and pretty much criticise Vetch for having the audacity to call him out on it. He has every bloody right to call him out on it.

You pointed it out, and made a meal of it in doing so. When Proph accused him of being racist, I think most just laughed at him, because the accusation was laughable. But you failed to mention that part, that the racism claim was laughable, why? Is it because by doing that you couldn't have stirred the pot?

He pulled me up on it before, never belittled me in doing so, and I agreed he was right. Who did he belittle when doing so and have you got links to the belittlement?

Maybe you too should take note of that signature.

 

Me ignorant Tom? I would bet you flunked out of school and barely read a book in your life before you were indoctrinated by fascists. Am I right Tom?
Me a traitor Tom? My father was in the British army and in the European Elections I voted UKIP and I've been voting UKIP in European elections ever since there was a UKIP....before a lot of ignorant people who "don't like foreigners" and fascist bastards such as yourself jumped on the bandwagon (Not that voting for any of the parties would make someone a traitor.....)

I'm educated Tom. It is you who are ignorant. You weren't even paying attention to the Labour Party who ruled for 13 years Tom. How can you not know that they continued Thatcherism Tom?

 

I was told that the mods would back him up.

 

Thats just nasty lol

 

Fascism and it's followers belong in one place, and that is in a pool of boiling hot lava.

 

So this is the purpose of the thread.

 

No Terror, I don't smash peoples face in. Look I was walking through town wearing my UKIP badge and three of these anti fascists starting shouting racist at me. This anger I have presented today is a product of that. I've had enough.

No I have not read "clash of Civilisations", but will download it to my Kindle and have a look. I try not to present my arguments though ignorance even though everyone is to a certain degree. Further education is always needed and keeping an open mind is key.

What is obvious to me is that political correctness in this country and the EU is a fact. NO one can deny this. With the open borders, constant attacks on patriotism and nationalism these are troubling times. I will read the book, see where that leads my thoughts but these things are happening.

 

I think the MODS are just talking sense. "i was told" jeez, you know my History with the MODS on here PGF, one thing i could never level at them is favouritism , they are some of the best and fair minded MODS there has been on here in years, apart from myself of course!!

I think your being unreasonable PGF

 

Thanks Norway, that was money well spent Dont go spending it all at once.

 

Ok fella ...



Nah, say it like it is dont i , ive had plenty of ups and downs with you but not once have you ever been anything other than impartial when it comes to this kind of thing, least not in my experience.

 

I am not politically affiliated with any group. I only voted for UKIP. Before that I came from a Labour family. Then I woke up. I am called a fascist and a racist because of this. Was a child when new labour got into power. I went to a few SWP meetings in Swansea only going back ten years ago. I played devils advocate in a meeting about bringing the troops home from Iraq. I put my hand up and suggested, that since we are already there we should finish the job. I was instantly set upon by the speaker who was a Nigerian who had suffered persecution in his country. He started screaming racist at me. The whole room erupted into chaos.

This was all because I stated something nobody had the guts to say, the room fractured and divided into two groups. But I was so shaken I never went back and realised some people never like to hear others opinions. This was the beginning of my shift to the right, nobody made me do anything. I educated myself on these matters.

 

Unreasonable? Why start a new thread out of something that was being adequately discussed on another thread. The motives need to be looked at. Any one with any sense knows that starting a race related thread is going to end in tears.

 

I'm so glad im not the only one who can see this too...well put pgf and very accurate..

 

maybe impartial with some but not all...

 

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