I don't see why people have a problem with him. As the leader of the party in the center he correctly formed a coalition with the party that had the biggest vote in order that we could have a government. He and Cable have put the brakes on some of the changes that the Tories wanted to make. OK, he has gone against the Lib Dem manifesto in places but then so have the Tories against their own. It's a coalition.
"Listen Gandalf, Mordor is ****ing miles away...why don't we give him the ring in exchange for a nice foot massage" Bilbo Bawbaggins
Pie in the sky and dem italian thingswhat do youcall them,"baby pizza".Love their sausage rolls. and anall,Greggs gets my vote every time.
It's difficult to gauge on only 35% of voters but if last night was any reasonable measure of Clegg's position, including that of his Lib Dem party, it is now unworkable within the coalition as i see it. Double edged sword for the Conservative's now, with the UKIP earth tremors. Although last night's voting went in Cameron's favour maintaining a reasonable percentage of vote up against Labour. In the past people have been scared to openly voice against immigration or Europe but now your seeing a snowball affect and the people have stood up and spoken, so Farage's army will continue to march with a more right wing. The politicians never listened, the first election in over a 100 years i believe where either the Labour or Conservative parties have not won. Only Farage himself can screw this up now by joining allegiance with a far right party. It may well have just been another protest vote but until we make voting compulsory and get the other 65% off there arse, then there is a risk that both the Labour and Lib Dem parties may dispense with their leaders, otherwise the conservatives will get back in if UKIP voters were to follow with the nearest alternative but for that Conservative's will have to rethink, hence Clegg is now a thorn in their side but relief also because Clegg is a diversion for all the ****, which actually favours the Conservative party, until Labour get rid of that numpty Ed. If the politicians still fail to listen, what lesson will the voters teach them next and the consequence for the whole of Europe.
Thing is of course, most of the electorate is pretty f**king ignorant. And all politicians pander to that ignorance However, only a small percentage of people would actually be stupid enough to vote ukip in a general election.
Really, the biggest region, the South saw over 1/4 of a million voters bring in UKIP. So by your reckoning and looking at your own profile and indicated area, using your words there must be a hell of a lot of 'thick ****s' in your very own geographical location. Maybe you need to have a word with them.
Considering that something like 8 million people tune in to watch ****e like X-Factor I think it's safe to say the country has it's fair share of thick ****s.
True. However, those so called thick ****s currently hold the most seats in Europe a political landscape that would have been unimaginable a decade ago. I'm not sure did UKIP also get a seat in Scotland, I haven;t checked. Again something that was suggested couldn't happen. So unless those 8 million people stop watching the X-Factor, political change is happening in the UK or at the very least Europe.
You can build on that and say that the even more depressing thing is how many people vote in those things but not at the polls. Then again maybe that's actually not such a bad thing......
The biggest thing that puts me off ever voting is populism. Politicians deliberately simplify their message so that the stupidest person in the room can understand it. They stay away from telling people the truth if the truth is not a positive message - when was the last time you heard a politician say that the reason that wages were so low at the bottom was because that particular part of the population should have stayed in school longer, or learned new skills as the economy changed? No they just do a Farage and tell them that it's someone else's fault their lives are going wrong, that the state has a responsibility to fix it for them, that they have 'rights' as citizens, rather than responsibilities to get off their arses and take control of their own lives. But no, Politicians are self-aggrandizing - they need you to believe that it's their job to deliver you something for nothing - that you need them to help you. No politician will say 'get off your ****ing arse and do something about it yourself' because it makes their role in the process redundant.
You have to give people the means to 'get off their arses'. There are many barriers to this. Simply saying it has echoes of Tebbitt telling people to get on their bikes to find work when unemployment was officially over 3 million (and unofficially closer to four).
It's always easy for people with jobs to go on about how those who haven't only have themselves to blame. It's not always that simple.
Exactly. It doesn't help when you have a political establishment and compliant media who constantly drip feed negative stories about people on the dole.
Then the other 65% need to get off their arse instead of whining. Like i said in my earlier post, they should make it compulsory, even if they choose to just spoil their ballot paper as way of protest.
They need to bring voting into the modern age. I personally don't have time to go the polling station. Get voting done online and a lot more people will vote. Make it compulsory? Hold up - that lacks a bit of freedom.
not quite true Mick, who was the Conservative guy who told everyone to get on their bikes?...I can;t be asked to google it.
