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Official Not606 Monaco GP Chat and Predictions

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by BrightLampShade, May 20, 2014.

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Who wins? You decide

Poll closed May 22, 2014.
  1. Hamilton - 100

    62.9%
  2. Rosberg - 97

    28.6%
  3. Alonso - 49

    2.9%
  4. Vettel - 45

    5.7%
  5. Ricciardo - 39

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    0.0%
  6. Hulkenberg - 37

    0 vote(s)
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  7. Bottas - 34

    0 vote(s)
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  8. Button - 23

    0 vote(s)
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  9. Perez - 20

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Magnussen - 20

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. OTHER - STATE IN BOLD

    0 vote(s)
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  1. LewisF12014

    LewisF12014 Member

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    Yep this. What a driver. Deserves in my opinion at least another world title, but I am almost sure he will not get it at Ferrari - move elsewhere needed.
     
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  2. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    *Groans* he doesn't do himself any favours saying that after what Lauda told us what he did in Spain to keep the lead on Rosberg.
     
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  3. DHCanary

    DHCanary Very Well-Known Member
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    Depends how Ferrari can develop their engine. Losing the engine battle to Mercedes must really hurt, so you'd expect their unit to get better, if not this season but next. I can't see any seats opening up at Red Bull or Mercedes for a couple of seasons, and nobody knows how good Honda power will turn out to be, so jumping into Mclaren is a huge risk.
     
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  4. GUEST

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    Wolff revealed that the tension dates back to the epic battle between the two in Bahrain where Rosberg was using engine modes that Hamilton was not and then Hamilton did the same when the pair were racing in Spain in two weeks ago. Wolff played down the significance of the two incidents, but said it had added to the tension in Monaco and would not be allowed in the future.

    "In the last couple of races we had some little fouls left and right, and in the team we made sure this is not happening again," Wolff said. "The most obvious bit is you can play around with the engine modes, so this is not happening ever again.
     
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  5. GUEST

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    nico wouldnt do that on purpose,he's too nice...yeah right.lewis knows nico better than all those who say that.plus desperate ppl do things they dont normally.nico was desperate for pole,he knew that would more or less guarantee a win.
     
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  6. eddie_squidd

    eddie_squidd Well-Known Member

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    It's sad to see Hamilton reacting this weekend the way he has. When Nico got the upper hand on him he allowed him to get the upper hand mentally too. Perhaps he thought he was keeping up some sort of pressure on Nico or the team but actually he looked mentally vulnerable for the first time this year. Sort it out Lewis, you are not going to win every race, and you can't go to pieces when you don't. Back to focus and discipline, that was working fine.
     
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  7. BamalamaFizzVaj

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    You say that, but it doesn't seem like the man can even just win now, without kicking up **** about some tiny (probably imaginary) thing that might favour his team mate, or even slightly have a negative affect on how his own performance is perceived.
     
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  8. eddie_squidd

    eddie_squidd Well-Known Member

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    I suppose the trouble is that barring unexpected developments he knows he is in a tight championship battle. Most drivers don't feel that pressure until later in the season. With the Mercs being so far ahead though those two know they really only have to beat the other so the focus on the other team mate is already intense.
     
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  9. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    Despite the Monaco blah blah blahing... Had a fabulous Indy 500 and rounding out the day with the Coca Cola 600. Gawd I love this weekend. Shame it comes but once a year. :(
     
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  10. Han Shot First

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    Is everyone who comments on Benson's BBC article a deluded hamelot? Each article should come with a warning "Abandon logic all ye who enter here"
     
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  11. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    Probably best asking that question there. I think it's safe to say that this is a Hamelot free zone, despite the usual Hamelot tag slinging.
     
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  12. Smithers

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    Niki Lauda says feuding Mercedes Formula 1 team-mates Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg overstepped the mark with their behaviour at the Monaco Grand Prix.


    AUTOSPORT understands that the two men are no longer on speaking terms, and it was their lack of communication during post-race ceremonies that has particularly upset Lauda.


    When asked by AUTOSPORT about concerns of distrust between his drivers, Lauda said: "Lewis not happy finishing second is normal, but in the end he has to accept another guy was quicker. This is very simple in racing.


    "What I did not like, and I have to say, and I will tell him this on Monday, is that when you are up there [on the podium] and you don't say hello to your team-mate, which Nico has always done, that is not good.


    "It's not because I am well educated, but it's for the brand Mercedes. This is something I start to worry about now, but it's easy to fix."


    Hamilton conceded that the Monaco podium was the first time there had been no communication between himself and Rosberg after the race.


    "We never really speak on the podium," he said. "The last four podiums I will just say well done to him, and after we would say this is unbelievable what the team has achieved.


    "This weekend we didn't. But we will I'm sure in the future."


    LAUDA VOWS TO SORT IT


    Lauda plans to talk to both drivers in the coming days to get their perspectives on the situation at Mercedes, and he is hopeful that things will be better in Canada.


    "I spoke to the drivers before the race and it is not finished," he said.


    "I understand all the comments and I have to wait two or three days, but before it goes to Canada it will be solved.


    "I will speak to them like I always do. They always call me when they have problems, so I think it will sort itself out.


    "It is normal. I had the same with [Alain] Prost. I hated the guy, but at least I said hello in the morning.


    "There are certain limits and these certain limits I can reintroduce because I speak their language, the drivers' language, and they do understand me, they like me and there is no issue."
     
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  13. eddie_squidd

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  14. EternalMSC

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    If you look at the BBC page now you would never tell that Rosberg won.
     
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  15. BrightLampShade

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    The whole thing will probably blow over, the championship is now almost a certainty down to Rosberg and Hamilton so they'll get every inch of media attention and stirring. Hamilton and Rosberg (to a lesser extent) aren't helping things but such is the media these days.
     
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  16. ErnieBecclestone

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    Exactly, Lewis you are not the little kid from a Stevenage estate any more, so stop behaving like it.

    You are in a position where history could be made, driving for one of the most prestigous teams, winning races, achieving poles, fastest laps, for **** sake, stop being a twat and get your head together.

    I am one of Hamiltons biggest fans, well his driving anyway, If he was my Son I'd still give him a clip around the ear.

    "Man up Lewis" stop being a child.
     
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  17. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    He's been the same since he started in F1, he's just a spoiled, egotistical chav twat, great driver (not as good as Alonso or Vettel) but as a person he's just a ****ing knob-end, and always has been. I expect he got bullied at school, not for being black, but for being a completely unlikeable twat.
     
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  18. Astro Canary

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    Well I got round to watching the race later because I was in Germany relaxing this week, but the fireworks have been lit... but there will be bigger explosions to come!

    I thought Nico would win this one, and I think he played the entire weekend perfectly. I do think he made the 'mistake' during quali on purpose, my reasoning? He was under no major pressure (Yes Lewis was on a fast lap but its not a difficult corner) and knew that pole would all-but guarantee victory, and has never not made that corner in the 100s of times around this circuit before then and the 78 times after (even locked up a couple of times during the race but made the corner). But there was more, this not only gave him pole but angered Lewis. The psych games were played on Lewis this time and it worked perfectly. Another instance was him saying they were friends? Did he say that in the interview?... if so definitely an attempt to play on Lewis' emotions. Nico can play mind games as well...

    However, I will say whilst it wasn't the fairest thing to do, it was brilliantly executed. Doing a Schumacher would have got him a penalty and its been shown that being quicker than Lewis doesn't necessarily mean victory. Unsporting? Perhaps but their have been many instances of that over the years by Champions and that is what can make one. Kudos to him.

    Some thoughts on Lewis. I too am disappointed by his reactions during and after the race. I thought this new Zen Lewis would have shaken it off. But I think the indignation he felt from Nico poking him in the right place to get a reaction (and getting away with it if you're inclined to believe that Nico produced the yellow flags on purpose). He lost 7 points at Monaco, but 25 on the opening race, yet the reactions are so different. He lost this weekend (only thing he could have done differently was to get a faster lap in on the first try), but he shouldn't have lost the psych battle, that is his fault.

    It'll be interesting to see whether now Nico has forced him to do quali differently... not doing a banker on his first attempt and then his proper lap on his second but to go for it from the beginning. If he messes up (like in China) on his first lap what happens then? We'll see...

    One thing I will say about Lewis is that he is a guy who wears his heart on his sleeve. For those who watch cycling (Particularly the Tour de France) will know Mark Cavendish is a similar mould to Lewis, where they have to give interviews just after the race where the adrenaline and emotions are still high can often say or do things which come across badly. If they are disappointed then it shows in abundance. In the case of Lewis the media are always poking him for a reaction knowing they will get one on the right occasion. I'm not making excuses for him as I think he behaved childish, but offering perspective. If he can shake it off and get back into his calm state he'll win again in Canada.

    As much as I didn't like the dominance of Seb, I dislike even more his bad luck this year. I don't like to see anyone disadvantaged like he has been. We haven't been able to see the direct battle with Daniel who seems to be very quick, especially as I think Seb is now getting used to the new set up this year. The one thing this fortune will have is that people like an underdog and those who didn't like him before will start to warm to him.

    I can't stop my ramble without mentioning Jules Bianchi. Yes 8 cars didn't finish, and yes some people got penalties, but he didn't (well a small penalty) and picked up a couple of points in the process. Fantastic for Marussia! I can't see Caterham doing the same as this was one of the best chances to do so with the high chance of safety car and crashes etc... Unless inter-changeable weather conditions or a wet race occur.
     
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  19. ErnieBecclestone

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    Agree to some extent, regarding his maturity, but not sure Alonso is quite in the same league, certainly Vettel is still an apprentice driver in my opinion.

    Like the new signature mate, maybe the indigenous UK population have just woken up, perhaps a revolution is on the way.
     
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  20. LewisF12014

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    Agree with this, so staying put at Ferrari for a couple of years may be his only option, until a seat or opening pops up elsewhere.
     
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