Let's be honest here, we have bragging rights beyond debate this season

You may be a bigger club, some argue otherwise

You have bigger crowds, no argument there

However, you had a season that began well, with the promise of a Europa Cup slot to chase that tumbled into nothing but mid-table oblivion.

I'm not ramming this doon ya throats tha naa, am saying - group hug, big sloppy kisses and sorry for the **** season you had. But, FUCK THAT SHIT!!! ...lets have lots of noise at yet more memorable derbies to follow ...we've clawed back the record to balance the books a little less in your favour of late and we all know it won't stay that way.

By contrast, our close season form was estounding, for you lot and for the League in general, it's a better league with both of us in it.

Let battle swords be drawn once more as we prepare for 2014/15, I wish you good fortune and may your God go with you.

 

You will win both Derbies next season and will continue to do as long as we have Pardew at the helm.

 

Not exactly a high value on those brags though eh?

You beat a genuinely **** side, and your lazy ass players only decided to start playing a fraction before it was too late.

It's like bragging your life is better than a homeless man's, because while you're also homeless, at least you have a stray cat friend that urinates on your toes at night to keep them warm.

 

My mackem colleague and I have a bet on the Bragging Rights that goes like this:

- each point gained in a derby is worth one point
- each place on the league table is worth one point
- each round you progress in a cup competition in worth one point.

Even when I thought you were going down I had accepted you were going to have the bragging rights. You got 6 points in the derbies and, what, 5 or 7 in the cups. We finished 4 places above you in the table. Not even close.

 

I'm old school.
I look at the table after 38 games and judge then.
A few years ago the not606 Mackems used to use the same barometer I believe.

 

I reluctantly agree.

 

Finally an agreeable way of taking greyness out it.

 

league position dictates top dogs end of, we both won the same as last year and the year before that ,the year before that ect ect

 

Either way, who gives a ****? Makes no difference to my life whatsoever what Sunderland do.

 

Thanks, but I'm not actually bragging - read the post again please. Your analogy is quite far from the mark

Its reassuring to me that you can conveniently pigeon-hole this situation into a narrowly defined field

 

Bragging rights..hmm you finished higher in the league than us, we beat you twice and had good cup runs and performed a great escape, you get bigger crowds (although cashley is trying to do something about that)

This just reflects the reality of the two clubs situation, neither of us are likely to get Champions League..we could get the Europa Cup..but that is some poisoned chalice..lots of long away games, little cash and threatens league status.

The stat that caught my eye this season was that the league position usually reflects the wage bill...Chitty have the highest wage bill and won the league..I suspect manures bill is high but they fell this time.

So what do our clubs play for..to preserve mid-table obscurity , the derbies and cup runs is my guess. Last couple of seasons I have been envious of Celtic playing Barca' etc.. but then you would have to put up with very dire league fare, winning yes but to predictably so.

We both sell on our best players, we lost Henderson a couple of seasons ago and sold our good keeper at the start of the season; earlier this year you sold Cabye(?) So are we feeder clubs for the top 4/6? do we take their young players as loan for experience.

Still we have each other and occasionally the smoggies may join us for a threesome

 

haddaway an ****e ya dafty.

"estounding" indeed

 

"We lost in the final of a cup"

Great brag

 

didn't they cheat there way there too with the dodgy ineligible player?

 

To be fair to the entrepreneurs of Sunderland they had the foresight to sell Father's Day cards in packs of 5.

 

They also need to get their card designers to specsavers....

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The new Wembley is lovely stadium, don't you agree, from when you were there?

 

I think freddd's calculations need to be re-evaluated

 

I'm sure it looked lovely through all the tears

 

Nothing like an abstract response now is there.