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Is there something behind Liverpool's insulting offers for players?

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Goodland, May 22, 2014.

  1. Goodland

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    I saw the thread "laughable" before - and now this: http://www.givemesport.com/468081-liverpool-make-8m-bid-to-sign-dejan-lovren?autoplay=on

    It is silly season, so quite likely that this is journos, but if Liverpool have looked at Swansea and thought "they bought Bony for £12million, he had a brilliant season, we'll offer £15million" and "Southampton's Lovren has had a great season, bought for £8.5million, we'll offer them £8million" then it seems that their approach to transfers feels a little unrealistic.

    Rodgers is talking about "top, top players" and there are links with players like Pedro... but why is he still looking at Vorm after he had a poor season? Why is he chasing Caulker after he got relegated?

    Journalists do get misty-eyed when it comes to Liverpool and have a tendency to think that everyone should be behind their push up the league (seriously, well done) by dropping prices. It feels like Antique roadshow whenever those guys hassle sellers on stalls to drop money with the tone of "come on it's good for the telly - people want to see this".

    OK, they may think that they can do it to try to whittle the price down, but there's a point where a) it makes chairmen draw the line because it seems unprofessional and b) it starts to suggest that their budget doesn't really match their ambitions.

    Rant over.
     
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  2. swanselona

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    I prefered this part

    "Such a claim is made by The Sun, who further suggest that the Reds boss Brenda Rodgers is also keen on a move for Cardiff's Steven Caulker, with the Northern Irishman obviously aware that he will need to significantly improve his defensive unit prior to their return to the Champions League"
     
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  3. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    Rodgers is putting a tester of £18m bid for Bony so i hope Jenkins don't take a £6m profit as a good deal because it is not imo, Bony is worth £30m in today's market of anyone's money especially us. Vorm is also wanted and i think he will go as he has been hinting to people as early as the beginning of the season that this will be his last season, Some of us assumed it was because he wanted to go back to his own country but he could have known that Rodgers wanted him back then and would be coming in for him this season, It would not surprise me. It is reported that Rodgers has £15 million that should be enough to buy Vorm and caulker and even though that is pretty close to the fee then £1 million for caulker is a bit low i reckon...<laugh>
     
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  4. taffthefish

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    With the FFP taking effect don't you think the price will go down?
     
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  5. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    What price Vorm, Bony or Caulker ?
     
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  6. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    No, because Utd are wasting £27 million on a raw left back. Bony is worth double him on the pitch, so that fee should be the benchmark.
     
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  7. taffthefish

    taffthefish Well-Known Member

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    No idea, but the OP seems to hint a derisory figure has been mentioned. My point is the FFP is now in place and clubs may adjust their bids accordingly. However, a player is only worth what someone is willing to pay.
     
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  8. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    Well as far as im concerned Bony is worth at least £30m to us for the fact he could make us £90 million next season like he has made us millions this season, It would be very dumb of us not to take that into consideration first and foremost no matter what any other club value him at..
     
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  9. roofjack_22

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    24 million is the price we will have to let Bony go for, anything else is laugh . Untill Arsenal put in a price, nothing will be taken as a serious offer imo
     
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  10. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    Whether we agree or not on a players value to say that a player bought for 15,000,000 who has a proven record in not only scoring goals but creating and with his defensive capabilities is now only worth 3,000.000 more than I'd say it's more than derisory .We're in fortunate position in that we don't need to sell ,but thats not to say we won't .The game has ben around long enough for us to know that todays hero is tomorrows villain and the club/ team is constantly evolving ,just look back to either respective club and look at the players profiles now to who they were then .The FFP principles are sound enough but there's a myriad of ways on how to circumnavigate it to the clubs' benefit .
     
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  11. Yankee_Jack

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    They are within their right to make a low-ball offer - and should. It start's the negotiation.
     
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  12. ivoralljack

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    That's more like a low-life offer!! :biggrin:
     
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  13. Dragonborn

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    Exactly. That's why we should dig our heels in and keep him here imo. We don't need the money but we definitely need him.

    I don't buy this stuff about unhappy players unless they aren't getting game time and it's harming their careers. Bony has been a regular and will continue to be so. He has signed the contract and we should hold him to it. His crack at a bigger club will come but the interests of the Club come first and we should hold him to his contract for one more season at least. Anything above £30M then we should look at it, becasue that would allow us to buy someone off equal quality because goalscorers at this level cost a lot of money.
     
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  14. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    I'd sell Bony for £30million (but only that sort of figure) and buy Lukaku for £20 million, giving us a £10 million profit to invest elsewhere.
     
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  15. ivoralljack

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    Probably in Lukaku's wages!!
     
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  16. Yankee_Jack

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    Brenda and Blarney
     
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  17. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    Well if we were to sell Bony and wanted a replacement of said quality, wages are going to be high.
     
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  18. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

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    Yes and thats why we should keep him , for another season if at all possible.
     
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  19. roofjack_22

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    The funniest part of the offer , and no offence to Joe Allen , Rodgers paid 15 million for Allen and wants Bony for18 million ------lmfao .... sorry Brendon , you can't make up for overpaying for Allen by expecting us to error as bad as you in reverse with Bony .
     
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  20. bigkidderz

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    Depending on how you look at it, selling Bony for £30mill would only generate £18mill in profit as we spent £12mill on him. So buying Lukaku for £20mill would actually give us a £2mill loss when taking all the Bony money into account.

    Not picking a hole in your thinking though. Bony sold for 30 and Lukaku in for 20 would be good business (if the wages were right as Ivor alluded to)!
     
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