DMD. In the West Stand Upper it is possible to hear a wuthers wrapper hitting the floor at 50 paces. I once heard Filey fart from the back of E1 so dont give me any of that bollocks. The KC is fine acoustically.
Let's have it right, the East Stand hardly rocks. Most games it whimpers, the perception that the East Stand is a wall of noise is laughable and pathetic. Honestly, don't kid yourself.
Hull City 1 Arsenal 2 the East Stand rocked, Hull City 0 QPR 0 the East Stand rocked. I'm not deluded to think it happens every game but when it rocked it was impressive. Moving E1 to E3 out of the East Stand will make it so much more difficult.
So that's about one game per season. Seriously, some of the East Standers, especially those who slag off other City fans in other stands, need to get off their high horses. The support from the East Stand is far from impressive. It might be slightly better than some other parts of the ground but not enough for the over inflated attitude that most who sit there have of themselves.
I don't slag our supporters off. I want our singers together and to increase them. Putting them all in N1 to N4 with 2,500 away supporters between them and the rest of the East Stand is going to make building our vocal support more not less difficult.
I can see why you'd like to believe that. Never mind, you agreed to disagree on this one part of the bigger picture.
If all of the North Stand was a singing section and targeted the most vociferous of our fans it would work. IMO. If, as I gather, it's an half arsed affair with away fans in the North Stand as well then I have to agree that there is absolutely no point in it. My 'beef' is that some East Standers honestly believe that they are the equivalent of The Parachute Regiment in terms of support and the rest of the ground are The Pioneer Corps. If you want to be labelled as the best you have to earn it. For me The East Stand is far too quiet to have its occupants looking down their noses at other supporters from other stands. You may not be one of those but you are probably in the minority.
At the moment the North Stand is used as over flow. It has to be better to have regular fans in the stand, giving the KC home support behind both goals. Perhaps this is the chance that the Ultras need. The East stand will take the lead from the North Stand as will the South. I am looking forward to the increased vocals.
It still won't work in that sense, the reason chants never spread round the ground is because the time it takes sound to travel it sends people out of sync. When the whole east stand gets going you will hear whatever they're chanting twice as each end of the stand is singing in a different timing. The south stand usually stays in sync with the southeast but occasionally sings in it's own time and it's not uncommon to hear 3 different renditions of the same chant at the same time out of sync with each other. People always hear that they're out of sync and then stop, that's the major card that throws the atmosphere off and reduces most the ground down to clapping seals whilst E1-E3 grab the mic. What's really needed is some form of conductor. Be that a man in a suit and a silly hat waving a stick, screens behind the advertising boards beaming words back at the fans like a karaoke machine or roary the tiger with a drum or whatever else someone might think of, something like this needs doing to get all the fans involved and in time with each other else we'll always suffer from having just a small pocket of vocal support as no one else can manage to sing in tandem with them.
The more I look into it, the more I'm convinced it's a petulant swipe at those opposing the name change.
Very true. Equally dispiriting to seethe amount of people from E1-E3, supposedly our most fanatical fans, leaving early whether we are winning or pressing for an equaliser. As for the acoustics lots of stadiums around Europe without a roof at all generate a great atmosphere. The loudest decibel level ever recorded at a game was at a ground in Turkey with no roof on 3 sides and which only holds about 32,000. Anyone older will recall how loud it was on Wednesday's Kop when it had no roof. The reason is simple. A lot of people singing and chanting generates a loud noise. And we don't have many doing so. Most away followings have more people stood up chanting than we, the home team, do.
