Where we are, there are younger generation fans that make a habit of visiting their grandparents and other friends/family at half time. They will no longer be able to do this. The groups have been together for over 10 years and shared a lot, including births and deaths. To be told one day you're moving, without having an opportunity to sort things together is very much like being evicted from a home. It's what the stadium is, or at least should be. Because you feel one way, there's no need to deride people that are affected from holding a different opinion.
Daughter leaving school off to college working weekends .Doesn't want pass next season South stander bored with being told to watch language and sit down ..suggestions which stand to move to and when can I switch
If its true the gap between the singing section in the North Stand and the away supporters will be filled with home supporters that have bought a single ticket for that match. It will be interesting to see what happens if they complain to the stewards about the language and the standing. Same applies if the West Stand next to N1 start to complain about the noise. I like the view from where I stand, I like the people around me. A bit of consideration on behalf of the club could have allowed groups of fans to move on block. Instead we are told we have no seat, to find the money for a new pass or deposit within 7 days of our first FA Cup final if you want to get a choice of seats before they go on general sale to the rest of the season ticket holders and, finally having no idea who you'll be next to. I agree with DMD, he raises some very valid points about us being treat like cattle.
You think that E1-E3ers are going to be placed exactly as they are now but in the North stand so the acoustics be transferred like for like. But realistically E1-E3 will be spread differently in the North stand and indeed some may choose another stand. Some may transfer from other stands into the North stand. The noise may well go along all the North stand, and the East (from E4 onwards) and to the South. Hell, even the West may join in, as well as the upper section taken into account. The whole pace could well be different acoustically. So instead of just 3 blocks of one row and a few others dotted about sing it will in all likelihood spread about more.
Erm, you seem not to have seen the layout. It can't travel along from the north to the east in the way it travelled along the east previously as there's about 5 or six blocks sperating them. The noise from N1 cannot be heard in E3, even from a noisy following. 'all likelihood' as well as the rest of your post, looks pretty much like the claims you accuse me of, only with no support.
If it had been done when we all had a chance to talk to each other about it, it'd still be ****e, but it would be slightly less ****e.
I'm in favour, in principal, of getting the away fans into the corner and having City fans behind the goal. I'm also in favour of that area having more lax rules with regard to standing/singing/flags etc, but as is standard practice at the moment, I accept that it's been badly handled. It should have been announced earlier, giving people far more time to arrange to move in blocks and for people to remain seated together and more accurate details of exactly what is going on should also have been released. We still haven't been told by the club exactly what is going with corner of the North, which is fairly ridiculous and will hopefully be remedied soon. I completely understand why some of those in E1-E3 are pissed off about being made to move and that some in E4 don't want to be next to away fans, but I do think this will get sorted and people will adapt over time and the KC will be better for it in the long run.
As neither of us has any evidence of what will or will not happen then we will just have to wait and see what does. I don't have any claims. I don't claim to have any claims. Just conjecture, like you.
Erm, the evidence that chants travelled along the stand previously, and that chants from N1 cannot be heard from E3 seem to support the one issue you seemed to have latched on to. The other opinions I've offered can be supported too. Just because YOU can't see a problem, doesn't mean they don't exist. You've already said it doesn't affect you and you're not moving to the north stand, so I'm not really sure what it is you're trying to achieve.
All may well be true, and it's certainly the hand we've been dealt to play. But if it does get better, it will be in spite of this mess, rather than because of it. What your post misses is the consideration of other options. I've spoken to the club about it, and it wasn't logistically impossible to put away fans in the upper west. The key issue was fear of upsetting the corporates. That being the case, there could have been some sort of mitigation to get around that had the opportunity being offered. As it is, it's another cock up, even if it ends up being made to work by the fans. In the mean time, old time fans are drifting away, feeling less connesction to the club than ever before, to be replaced by Premier League customers. It doesn't bode well for the future.
You're basing that on the fact that currently we have the singers where they are, which is mostly in E1-E3. So a few people that currently sit in N1 cannot be heard in E3. But it won't just be a few singers in N1, it will be more, maybe N1-N whatever the block is. So it might be different. That's all I'm saying. I am offering my two penneth worth, just like you are. In reality what's any of it worth, **** all.
Nope, you're not reading what I put. EVEN WHEN NOISY FANS ARE IN N1, YOU CANNOT HEAR THEM IN E3. HTH.
Besides the central west stand upper are there any corporate seats. I cant get access to any dining from where I sit as far as I know and I cant get to the lower tiers from the upper concourse I would have to go all of the way down and then back up. Its different when you leave as they open all of the exits.
I am reading what you put. Capitals not really needed. All I am saying is that it won't be just N1 being noisy, it will be N1-N5 or even all of the North stand.
Isn't there a lift? As a challenge, we swapped tickets one game a few seasons back and started in the west upper, and had to get back to the East Stand. I seem to recall getting a lift down and then crossing from lower west to the south by passing along the seats.
Not always. Seriously, they can only be faintly heard in very extreme circumstamces. I mentioned it to show that it won't necessarily improve the atmosphere because of the gaps in between. It's just one of a number of points, but for some reason Charlie wants to make an issue of it. I don't mind, each time it helps reinforce that part of the situation.
I accept fully that the club does not reward loyalty from the fans. Nick Thomson said as much. They do not want a long established customers, what they want is a new supporter base. One that is willing and able to spend more money. They do not want Hull City supporters to turn out in shirts from a bygone era, they want all supporters to buy the new kit each season. They want to encourage a new self centred style supporter. The club wants to encourage families and full price ticket payers as well a increase the spend from the executive seating and boxes. It would if it had the room rather built more boxes and dining than increase the seating in stands.
