McNally did say that he didn't expect all fans to be universally pleased with the new manager ?? Make of that what you will !
That was his response to do they listen to what the fans want! The fans wants are so diverse that obviously many will not be happy WHOEVER is appointed!
Dreadful journalism http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...irector-will-join-canaries-setup-9395585.html They are taking the micky
Does no one proof read anymore? That's a joke of epic proportion, the BBC are just as bad if not worse with their terrible spelling and grammar. I've just been editing teachers long reports for students because they're full of spelling and grammar errors, ffs how can you misspell the students name it's on the computer screen where you're typing it ARRRRRRRRGH
A little piece of me dies when I see the only updated thread on this site is the "Thread association game". Please can we have some progress or exciting new rumours on our new boss today.
Rather ironic that you're criticising standards of grammar when your short post contains numerous such errors: "proof read"? It is actually one word. "BBC are"? The BBC is singular. "... of epic proportion"? In this case proportion should be plural and, as it's a cliche, contained within inverted commas. "teachers"? It should have an apostrophe as it's a possessive noun. It is incorrect to use a comma before your 'ffs'. It should instead be a hyphen (if the latter phrase is in explanation or acts a qualifier of the former); a semicolon or full stop but never a comma. "ffs" should actually be in inverted commas and capitals. If someone employs you to edit documents, I can only assume it is out of desperation and ignorance.
The huge difference being I am not a paid journalist, Muppet! Life's too short for caps when you're using a PHONE to post! Oh and BTW (ooooh caps) welcome to the forum nice entry first or second post is to criticise someone who's been here years.
By all accounts, according to a statement at the bottom of this article, Malky and JF Zola have been interviewed
OK, Susan, if you are going to set yourself up as the grammar police, I'd like to make a few comments, too. 1) Collective nouns such as 'BBC' can take either singular or plural nouns. For example, my American friends tend to say 'Liverpool is' whereas, as a Brit, I tend to use 'Liverpool are'. 2) Since when did cliches require inverted commas? You may disapprove of them, but there is no need in ordinary use to mark them out by 'quoting' them. 3) A hyphen is used within compound words ('sugar-free', 'door-to-door'). Usually a dash (either an em-dash or an en-dash) is used to connect parenthetical statements. 4) I have no idea why you believe FFS should be placed in inverted commas. It is an abbreviation and I don't think you would recommend placing 'BBC' in them. Sorry if I'm also sounding a prig right now. I just don't feel posters on here should look down their noses at the grammar of other posters.
Incorrect. Both are acceptable, as is hyphenating the two. Proofread as one word is the most common, especially in American English. Collective nouns in British English can be pluralised, it is acceptable. Incorrect. He might only be talking about one proportion. This is not a rule, you've made that up. It is true that many people subscribe to this mantra, but it is stylistic, not grammatical. Wrong. A comma is acceptable given that it is slang. There is no hard and fast rule on this. Capitalisation is normal, but unnecessary, given that it is slang. And certainly no need for inverted commas. Again this is stylistic. If someone employs you at all, I can only assume it is out of masochism. The article was appallingly written. So attacking Rich for his typos and errors is an ad hominem argument
Oops, Viet got in first. Prig away sir, some people need it. Clearly Susan is an American as many of her points come from that view of English - she says "inverted commas" instead of "quotation marks";- "FFS".
In case you missed among in the squabbling................ By all accounts, according to a statement at the bottom of this article, Malky and JF Zola have been interviewed
What's your point? Anyone would think this was a thread about a new manager! Interesting, but surely Neil would have been interviewed too? I'm always wary of the 'insider knowledge' of some of these journos.
1. BBC is not a collective noun - it is the name of an organisation, therefore, it is a proper noun. 2. Cliches always require inverted commas, absolutely always. 3. Actually a hyphen has several grammatical uses - in English we have no 'dash'. It is American English that developed the distinction. 4. 'FFS' is not an abbreviation - it is purely 'text-speak' and not an accepted abbreviation. 5. 'BBC' is not strictly an abbreviation, it is what's known as an initialism. Professionally, I am a lexicographer, grammarian and editor working for the OED. Rich44, that is completely irrelevant. You were criticising someone's grammar, presenting your work as an editor to add gravitas and qualification to your assessment, when your own grammar and spelling, as evidenced in 4 lines, is absolutely atrocious.
Sorry Rob, but Americans would say single quotation marks (or more likely 'single quotes') and "quotation marks" or 'double quotes' for the other. Having lived for 24 years in America, I never heard 'inverted commas' ever used there, but I have done so many times in the UK during my 43 years here.
