I agree he has, along with Bruce and the players made this season a brilliant one. However that still does not make him right about wanting to change the name. We have global recognition and exposure as Hull City. Tigers is our nickname, we have a Tiger on the badge and there is absolutely no sense or reason in changing the name to Hull Tigers. None of us want to hate Allam and we recognise what he has done for the club but it is evident that he wants to change the name just because he thinks he can. It is to stamp his authority on the club and all of us, nothing more. It will not bring millions into the club and if you are of the opinion that he can do what he likes because he has put x amount of money into the club then I am afraid you have been bought.
Fair point Balkan....As far as I am concerned and probably the vast maj of City fans Allam (luv him or hate him) saved the club when he put his hand into his pocket and pulled out £50 million. Therefore he can say what the f**k he likes, when ,where and to whom. Doesn't mean to say he is right...But he has got the right. That is the bottom line.
Since the debate has started... Canada - it's nothing to do with wanting to hate him. Why would we want to do that? Unless it's some kind of prejudice like he says? We get pissed off at him because of the things he's done and said. It might not bother you, that's fine, but you have to be able to accept that it is going to piss people off when he says things about us like "How can they call themselves fans, these militants, hooligans?". His defenders cling to the "They can die when they want" quote and try to pretend it's all about that one quote and they blame the media saying they misquoted him, but it isn't just that. He's quite clearly laid out his position and he's done it enough times to prove beyond doubt that it isn't all misquotes. There's loads of things he's said which are just disgusting. The people he's called militants and hooligans, people like me and others on here, are shelling out money every week to watch our team and he's insulting us, directly telling us not to come any more and to "Leave the club for the rest of the fans." He's offered to refund our season tickets if we don't like what he says. All of these things are just despicable.
Spot on DB. Do the anti-Allam posters believe we would be where we are today if he hadn't put a substantial amount of money into the club, hired Steve Bruce, and gave him a free hand with the players he wanted to bring in. Do they seriously think that those who believe that those who support his right to make marketing decisions he believes are in the long-term interest of the club financially have "been bought" as two posters already have suggested and can have no independent opinions on the matter. Seriously????
Sounds like being bought to me. Why are you ignoring my post to instead focus on more of this crap? It's like you just want the argument to go on forever by evading the points made to you and repeating the same old crap. You and Duffen have both stated that you're happy for him to do and say what he wants because he did some good previously. That's exactly what Stuart was getting at by being 'bought'. You're choosing to take that stance, which appears weak to me. You can't complain that not everyone is so happy to take whatever he throws at us. My view is you can never buy the right to do what you want, especially with something as important as a football club. Previous owners have done the same - saved the club and relied on the goodwill from that to get away with running the club into the ground later on. They're now seen as villains and unless something changes dramatically Allam will leave the club in the same way.
But therein lies the problem, in that some of you still believe that a change of name is going to be of major financial benefit. It isn't. End of discussion.
PLT he is shelling out far more money to make the club successful than you or I or anyone on here can ever dream of, but YOU all are insulting HIM. I've read comments about Mr.Allam and his family on here that are far more DESPICABLE and disgusting than anything he has said....and it goes on week after week on this forum. Time for fair minded supporters to make their voices heard....and provide a sense of perspective.
Oh, there's the other thing. He's not 'shelling' out money. He's moving it from one company to another, and claiming interest back on it. Investment and loan have completely different meanings, don't you know?
How can you compare posts on a messageboard to what he's saying in public about our fans? He's called us militans and hooligans and told us to leave the club for the people who agree with him. How can you not think that's appalling? What could he do to earn your dislike? People saying some daft stuff on a messageboard is nothing compared to the chairman of our club telling us all to stop supporting the club and saying we're not real fans if we don't agree with him.
Of course I appreciate him saving the club and investing in it. But why re-open the debate 3 days before the cup final.
I found that interesting too. Seemingly he wanted to plug the Squash tournament. He should be asking himself why he feels he has too when he pays people to do just that. Obviously they have failed. As they have by missing the boat on capitalising on our first ever FA Cup appearance. Also the Squash tournament is not successful because AA changed its name. Its successful, in a squash type of way, because he has bailed it put. No-one wanted anything to do with it for three years so it cannot be that big a deal if no sponsors were interested. Also how big does he think it is now? It hasn't even had a mention on the local sports news. But if journos keep asking the question AA will always rise to the bait. The answer would be to keep him away from a film crew.
If the rumoured pass price rise is to be believed, then there can be no one, and I mean no one, with the requisite lack of mental capacity to carry on praising Dr Allam. But then again..............
What's that got to do with anything? It's not about who can see it if they google it, it's about who's talking, who they're saying it to and the position they're in. If I personally went up to Allam and told him he was a **** that'd be nowhere near as bad as the things he's said. Because he's speaking publicly to the media as the chairman of our football club. Allam as the chairman of our club has told the majority of our fanbase to leave the club for the people who agree with him. This is separate from all the lies, the ballot, and the name change idea itself. Even if what someone said about Allam was really bad, it doesn't make it okay to say and do what he has and talking about it is just a pointless distraction to divert from the argument at hand which I've already made and which instead of addressing, Canada and you have chosen to push it down this route. This is what's happened for the last 9 months...
Most of his fans are the ones who don't go to games anyway, and therefore the ones he hasn't insulted. A price increase will make no difference to them.
I find it odd that when Assem Allam calls Hull City supporters names by implication, the very people who throw a hissy fit start calling fellow supporters names or imply that they have been "bought". The alternative view could be that those who oppose the name change are blinkered and stuck in the past. They hold a romantic view of Hull City that is simply nothing more than rose tinted. Assem Allam is wrong in his stance, but he is right that Hull City needs something to make it become a bigger club. It has had nothing much to go on. Have I been "bought" because I see the acceptance of the advice that brought Steve Bruce to the club, produce the best ever season? Have I been "bought" because I see the playing squad investment bring the reward of a Cup Final? Have I been "bought" because I am excited by the news of investment in the academy? Have I been "bought" because I will join 25,000 Hull City supporters at Wembley? I don't want the name changed, but I will not join in the bitterness towards Assem Allam.
You keep rabbiting on about me ignoring your posts when I've discussed your point of view and presented the reasons why I don't agree with you multiple times. Are you tone deaf or being wilfully obtuse. Why are you ignoring MY responses? How many times do you want to ignore my opinions and claim they are worthless because they are the opposite of yours. You and Blampey rave on about anyone who disagrees with you as "being bought" and how you've been insulted and misused. Now Allam is about to run the club into the ground?? What will be your complaint next year.??? As for not knowing the difference between an investment and a loan, since I spent my career running an investment company from 1974-2004 I think I know the difference. And yes I know you didn't say that ...someone else did.
But the bitterness is only because of the name change. Everyone agreed with the other things you have said
Excellent post Omega. I'm agnostic on the name change like many others but the criticism of the Allams has gone way over the top in my opinion. But then anyone who tries to bring some balance to the discussion is now accused of "being bought". How ridiculous.
