The Official Not606 European GP Chat & Predictions

I wouldnt worry too much.
Horner said some weeks ago that the far biggest problem for the RB7 race-pace are the tyres. He was asked why there is such a difference between Q3 and race pace.
Obvious reasons (fuel load) aside, the most outstanding point according to him (Horner) is that the tyres can't handle the sheer pace of Q3 across the fuel-loaded race-stints.

Btw, i will laugh soooo much at all those who can't wait for Vettel falling behind due to this lame try to hinder Red Bull Racing.
Brawn GP had a much, much bigger problem as the other teams got their DD and still got away with it. Red Bull and Vettel will walk this home no matter what the FIA throws at them.

 

Thats a good point. I think this would all help the 3 new teams to catch up to the pack too. I dont think its a bad rule to impose but Red Bull and its fans may not like it

 

Yes, I agree but I'm surprised that the FIA took so long to clamp down on it. I suppose that, as usual, there are politics involved in its timing but anyway it should, hopefully, make one of the calendar's dullest races a bit more appetising now.

 

Once again hoping for life after death, eh mate !

 

Looks like Valencia will be a close(er) qualifying between the top 3 teams, that's if aggressive engine mapping is (mostly) the reason behind the RB7's blistering qualifying pace (in Vettel's hands). But I still think it will be a Red Bull pole, may even be a front row lock out.

 

A couple of days ago I would have agreed, but I'm not sure anymore with the restriction on engine map thing.

 

Vettel still has to be favourite for the win. How many times in the last couple of years have we heard teams saying "we'll be faster than them when we get our updates on the car" or "we're faster than them in race trim" only to see Red Bull still sat at the top? Newey seems to be two or three steps ahead of everyone else, they always find a way.

 

Newey has surely got a backup plan, it just has to make it's debut earlier.

 

The new rear suspension tested in Canada proved to be effective:

Tombazis also revealed that the 150º Italia cars will sport again a redesigned rear suspension system in Valencia. “We tested it on Friday in Canada on Alonso’s car,” he said. “It was a positive test. The tyres, for us and for most of the teams, are still fairly new and we are still learning about them and that suspension package was an attempt to better suit our car to the Pirelli tyres. The test in Canada went quite well and it was just an experimental trial run to verify if our simulation results were correct or not. We now plan to introduce that more extensively in the next few races.”

http://www.ferrari.com/English/Form...Valencia_A_third_consecutive_street_race.aspx

In that article, Ferrari seem quite confident about their chances in Valencia.

 

Do you know where Ferrari are at with the flexible front wing Forza? They've not talked about it recently but it still seems fairly rigid.

 

Haven't heard anything about it recently - but they are working on it.

There's going to be quite a significant update in Silverstone, but I don't believe that includes a flexible FW.

 

If the title race was a bit closer maybe the FIA wouldn't be enforcing the throttle maps, and banning the off throttle blown diffusers.

It's bad for business having one driver dominating the title race. Michael Schumacher proved that beyond any doubt. Seeing as Bernie is only interested in the bottom line it was always to be expected that something would have to be done to curtail the Red Bull and its' illegal flexible front wing (oops, of course it's not illegal at all if the test can't prove what we can all see with our own eyes).

 

Hamilton for me. wit the No ECU remapping allowed anymore from quali to race day, no more pole's for vetttel and without that initial headstart he arent winning

 

Must be Trulli then.

 

I can't believe they were doing engine remapping between quali and race day and no one picked up on it! I would have thought that wasn't allowed as when they went into park fermi , no more adjuistments allowed

 

If it's passed the test, then it's legal. Stop being so bitter.

 

"(oops, of course it's not illegal at all if the test can't prove what we can all see with our own eyes)"

I think I already said that. In fact I wrote it in order to attempt to stop the precise comeback you used. I must admit though that I am slightly bitter about it. It's like if Ben Johnson got away with winning the 100m final at the 84 Olympics. Get my drift? I suppose if athletes use drugs that are undetectable to testing they are not cheating either, right Cowboy?

Don't bother answering. I'll admit I'm just a bitter Vettel-hater or whatever. Yawn.

 

I couldn't disagree more with that statement - not specifically in relation to Red Bull's front wing or TMDs or flexible floors or any other clever development - but simply on principle. No test is infallible and very clever people can always find a way of fooling a test while running a component that is completely illegal. Legality is not defined by the tests, it's defined by the regulations.

I'm not saying Red Bull's wing is illegal. In fact, given the general grumbling about it, I shouldn't be surprised if Charlie Whiting hasn't had a quiet chat with Adrian Newey and is satisfied that whatever Red Bull is doing is legal. But that statement, "if it passes the test then it's legal," is a cheat's argument.

 

Can I just take this moment in my time to say, I CAN'T FCUKING WAIT!!!
And why is there 50 screens on tennis on the red button on the BBC ffs!!!

 

Are they not showing Nico Rosberg's classic F1 choices on the red button yet, Manny?

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