Also, I don't see why the state needs to operate stuff like airports and car manufacturers and travel agents and the BBC and so on. If not for all those privitisations, the state would be ridiculously bloated. Although certain things should be under state ownership, like probably utilities (gas, electric, water) and the rail networks.
Sorry mate but as far as I can tell you talk total nonsense. All this stuff about not surviving without the eu is just empty rhetoric. Please can you list all these companies being propped up by these millions and millions a day the eu is supposedly pumping into our economy? We pay 50-55mil a day to the eu for membership and take far less than this out. W are hamstrung by the eu into trade deals that don't offer the best for the uk but benefit others in the eu. You've submitted to the fear monger tactics of the elite that we have to act a certain way or it's the end of us. Total nonsense. Edit: lol I wrote this early in the morning when I'm grumpy! Apologies if it doesn't come across well!
I don't need to scare monger, I am a pensioner who have worked all my life when Britain did rule the waves but now i have grand children who stayed in education to get better qualifications because there were no jobs about and still they are no better now than kids leaving school and not going into further education. They may have better qualifications now but there is little out there that justifies all the extra hard work they have put in to get a better job. There are far too many in the same boat and only a handful will be lucky enough to get a good job, usually them jobs go to the wealthy who have family connections. It was never like this when i was a lad.
Stop press! The economy is improving at an alarming rate and is doing so at the highest rate of the G20 countries. This has sod all to do with the EU.
Stop Press The top business that is growing at an alarming rate In every village town and cities across the land are Food banks for the poor....This gives a more accurate state of the country than any manufactured report that comes out of any government...
No. I think not. Did you see White Dee on that documentary? She's a lazy ****ing scrounger who doesn't need a food bank but as soon as she got wind of one in her neighbourhood she was down there like a shot and walked away with two ****ing bags full! This is the same woman who was seen last week in Magaluf partying with a £500 bottle of champagne. I'm not denying that food banks are a welcome help for some and they do good work but plenty take advantage too. I'd rather trust the bigger picture that tells us the economy is rapidly improving, but you keep sticking your head in the sand.
That's a fact for sure Dai, only 2 kids from my oldest son's year of school got a job, and one went self employed as a Carpenter, all the rest are still in some form of education at 20 years of age because there is nothing out there, but bar work and call centre crap jobs, which you could never hope to bring a family up on, he's done his O'levels, A'levels and 2 years of a Civil engineering degree, and he's now taken a gap year out, but he doesn't think he'll go back as so many friends older than him who have completed their degree's have still not found work, and are just doing 0 hour bar work to get by, this is the legacy of the ruling classes in this country, both Labour and Conservative are responsible for selling our kids down the swanee, no future for the young whatsoever......................
have to agree dragon, though tell your lad to stick at it, civil engineering is a great qualification to have, my mate with it got a job using his (an actual job). other than that, yes, its quite sad that a most university degrees do not help you out other than being one tick in a box for an employer. i'm in the same situation, if i can't get work at the end of my degree i'll have to carry on doing more qualifications, nowadays you can't be sure its worth it or if its money down the drain in this economy. apparently things are picking up but certainly not for graduates or people on low incomes, a recovery that is built on sand and benefitting only a small minority.
I disagree. You always get some who can't or won't get a job, and some people only want to live locally and aren't willing to travel. Before any of you start I'm not saying that's the case in your families as everyone's different. One of my kids is an IT graduate and had two job offers on the same day so it's not the same for everyone. Wales in fact has one of the fastest growing job rates in the UK (I think last month it actually was the fastest). I'm not painting an overly rosy picture because I know it's still tough out there but it's not all doom and gloom either.
Have you seen the report of how many applicants applied to Swansea council for just 5 apprenticeship jobs ???Over 600 so It's a myth that most youngsters are lazy and cant be bothered to work is not true. Its the same when any job of some significance comes up that there are hundreds applying for a single job. You cant find any job that will pay a livable wage as no family man can survive on the minimum wage even with substances to help families. There are no jobs of worth while anywhere...
Ironically, some of Mr Farage's ancestors (note his strange-sounding, un-English surname) were what would now be disparagingly classed as "asylum seekers" ie. French Huguenots fleeing religious persecution on the continent in the 18th (?) century.
I like nigel I really do and he speaks a lot of truths but he is wrong about the EU and wanting to pull out, Because of the state of the whole of the uk then we would be the losers and we will go into deep recession like nobody will have experienced in their life time. Unemployment will shoot through the roof like never before as the millions of pounds pumped into the British economy is stopped and Many more people will join the already poverty stricken masses.
"It's a myth that most youngsters are lazy and cant be bothered to work is not true." I hope you realise I never actually said anything of the sort.
No im saying it's a misrepresentation that is branded a hell of a lot by the two main parties and the media when they show programmes like Benefit st and the like. i'ts all manufactured and shows the young generation in a bad light which is simply not the case. You will get some bad apples in all walks of life but i hate it when its all one sided and not made clear that the vast majority of our Young generation are not Lazy who spend their life in bed all day and would love to have the opportunity to have a career. If you thought i am quoting about anyone on here then im sorry because i was not. Nobody on here is responsible for the current plight we face as we don't hold any governing posts..
We really wouldn't. Pulling out of the eu would not make us all of a sudden crumble, that's nonsense. Where are these millions of pounds pumped into the economy by the eu at the moment?
....Well said Dai, it's all propaganda by the ruling classes to put the working class down, and forward their own agenda and deflects from their own very poor stewardship of this nation!.................
So true. Food banks are seen by some as a way to feed their family without giving up SKY TV and the latest I-phone.
Monty. I realise that things are still pretty tough out there but it's not as bad a picture as some are painting. The work is there but you may need to move to get it. The days are gone when a job lands on your doorstep, and if it does, you're lucky. Both my sons live here but travel to Cardiff and Newport every day. It's a pain in the ass but that's what they have to do. If you have no skills and no qualifications then yes it's difficult but that's always been so. The previous Labour Government insisting everyone got a degree (many of which were in useless, impractical subjects) and an ignorance that apprenticeships were at least if not more important than a university education is a huge factor imo. However, I agree that some jobs are just bloody awful. The non-existence of unions in places like call centres is a huge worry and employers now do whatever they like. Some of the conditions are appalling and I have some experience of this. They are no better than battery farms where people are plugged in and told to meet targets. I could write for hours on Admiral but here's an example. Workers are allowed a 15 min toilet break each day and it takes 5 minutes to get there! No wonder their workers are off with stress and urine infections. If you go over your time you have to work it back. I have a close relative who works there so I know this is true. When she complained to the management she was told there were 100 people waiting to take her job - and the bastard was right. In another case, I'm aware of one worker who had her monthly incentives completely wiped out because she missed a comma on a letter. In another case a young girl I know quite well who had been off for months with stress returned to find 100 new claims waiting in her in tray and 6,000 emails to deal with because they kept piling the work up ready for her return. I'm not making this up. We can only hope that as the economy picks up employers will realise that workers are an asset not a commodity and conditions will improve. This is already starting because I'm told Admiral are now losing staff regularly as other jobs open up elsewhere. Let's hope they learn quickly.
The economy is bound to pick up as it always does but don't believe it when they say unemployment has come down and people are better off because that is not the case. The government make people go on courses they don't want or need so they are not included as unemployed, the zero contract farce is another they don't count. The way the government can manipulate the figures is shocking and don't fool anyone who studies politics as a hobby. and if we do leave the EU then whatever little growth that has been made (which is very little and miles behind what the Tories promised in the last election) would be lost in an instance because of the EU's subtenancy propping up our country.....All governments manipulate the figures to suit but the man on the street cant see any improvement and only less money in their pockets at the end of the month...As for the travel away rubbish how does that work....for instance !0 jacks travel to look for work in Cardiff and 10 blues travel to Swansea to look for work....what has been achieved, Nothing when there are no jobs in either city and its no good going through the EU countries as you want to pull out
