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Sherwood to go/Sherwood Sacked

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by RRich, Apr 7, 2014.

  1. Roo

    Roo Well-Known Member

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    delighted with the news. **** the win %, Sherwood was an idiot and had too much to say. People used to slag off Redknapp for much less.
    It could be clearly seen that many of our players were/are unhappy. AVB supposedly lost the dressing room, but Sherwood had done exactly the same isolating so many players.

    I don't see how he can be defended.

    Here's hoping for De Boer, but it's going to be Poch, isn't it? - Another AVB, I feel.
     
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  2. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I've stuck a tenner on Rafa Benitez.

    I've just got a feeling Levy knows we can't really afford to appoint another "young, up-and-comer" and while I've wanted de Boer from the off, I just get a feeling we're not going to get him now for some reason. Poch for me, needs another full season before decided whether we think he's right for us or not. He inherited a good squad from Atkins and while he's done well with them, I'd like to see how he copes should Lallana and Shaw be tempted away.

    Benitez may not play the most attractive of football but there's no doubt the man knows this league inside out and someone like him might just be ideal to give a kick up the arse to the underperformers.
     
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  3. Boss

    Boss Son of Pulis

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    What winning the title? Can't compare at all as Rafa destroyed a treble winning side and got sacked after 6 months.
     
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  4. tomw24

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    There's a lot of doubt actually. There is a strong chance Pochettino will refuse to join you even if Saints give you permission to talk to him.
     
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  5. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    I don't think Benitez or Guardiola were expected to repeat the treble the next season but winning the league in record time and potentially a double with a CL semi final at Bayern is a bit different to what Benitez did.

    I don't hold that wholly against Benitez though, there's usually more to it than just the manager when a club fails so spectacularly. I just think he's had a lot of average seasons at clubs and don't think his sides play very good football.
     
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  6. Spurm

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    The good thing about Poch should Saints let us talk to him and should he want to join us (lets be honest, poisoned chalice) is that his system is kinda similar to what AVB was trying to implement, he just did a better job of it and still managed decent football. So it won't be like going back to stage 1 unless our players are incredibly stupid and can't remember 6 months ago.
     
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  7. Spurlock

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    it was still a poor return on what happened the previous year.

    Management alone does not win trophies...the players play a role too.....for us Benitez is a step up.
     
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  8. Boss

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    Would you expect or demand a fairly instant impact? as if we did bring in Rafa there would be more of an expectation and demand for Levy to back him from his supporters, as if you believe hes a step up then that means he has to be given the necessary funds to build his own team, rather then what I believe Levy wants, which is to have a younger manager come in, work with the current squad and be given a year of transition but done with little net spend.

    Rafa was not only sacked from Inter for results, but he attacked the Inter chairman for not backing him.

    Thats a pretty severe breakdown of a relationship after only being at the club a few months, so how would he get on with Levy? what happens when we can't sign certain players (as it will happen) will Rafa demand the chairman spends?

    Can't answer these questions but you can see why i and others have doubts, as I don't see him as a good fit for us.
     
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  9. Spudulike

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    Given the choice based on experience, success and failure, I'd take the following in this order:

    1) Benitez
    2) De Boer
    3) Poch

    Sorry, might be an unpopular choice amongst the faithful but Benitez is the one who will bring the best out of our squad in it's present form.
     
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  10. Spurlock

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    I would expect an impact in a lot of areas...I think we would start to handle the big games better be it in the league or cups. Im not sure if he needs too many funds...I actually think a lot of our summer signings have a lot more to offer than they have and id hope Rafa's experience would see to that. If he does want backing financially then Levy must do it or we will forever be in this vicious circle of trying to make the best of what we have.....and forever hovering around 5th.

    That Inter team was on its way out age wise. This Spurs squad is young with a lot to offer. He hasn't complained too much at Napoli and is doing well.
     
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  11. Boss

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    He got the players he wanted at Napoli, mainly Higuain after Cavani left. If any manager gets the players he wants then they tend to be happy but at Inter he acted like a t**t after only having his foot in the door, he should have worked with what he had and then after a season talked to the owner.

    Levy isn't going to change his approach so thats why theres no point hoping for a manager that will clash with Levy as there is only one outcome.
     
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  12. Boss

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    But as for an alternative

    Tony Pullis "Premier League Manager of the Year"

    Well done Tony...<ok>

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  13. Blue and White

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    The fact that we as fans can't agree who we want just proves how difficult it is for the chairman to decide; but you can be sure that he will come in for plenty of criticism again for appointing the wrong man.
     
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  14. Spurlock

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    I take your point about Rafa and we will just have to see through which view Levy sees our future.

    As for Pulis.....a few weeks ago I did have a thought...Is he the type who does well with average players or can he lift established internationals onto another platform?
    If so I have been well impressed and would have him as manager...he may be another Redknapp..waiting for his big chance....but then again if he did well for us..he would be nailed on to replace Hodgson.
     
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  15. PowerSpurs

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    We have not squandered £100m on dross. It was just too hard to change that many players at once. We will be fine next season if we can get a decent manager.
     
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  16. Boss

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    <ok>

    You will be laughed at for even thinking that. I was laughed at for suggesting Tony Pullis should be a contender. Meanwhile, other fans are laughing at us for making the same mistakes.
     
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  17. The RDBD

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    Well deserved by Pulis.
    But where those squads at Stoke really such sh*te that he could only play
    them the way he did ??
     
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  18. Spudulike

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    Proving my point entirely! Why buy 7 unproven, untested overseas players when 3-4 players, of which at least 2 had already played in the PL would make more sense? That is called wasting money. How many of those 7 players have figured regularly and shown to be a relatively decent player? I can name 1, possibly 2 at a stretch.

    Eriksen - good
    Paulinho - average
    Soldado - donkey
    Chadli - average
    Capoue - dud
    Chiriches - average
    Lamela - who knows???

    If even 3, possibly 4 of these players actually prove to be a huge success next season, I will be absolutely delighted and offer my sincerest apologies. Frankly though, I doubt I will and our next manager (TBC) will seek out others instead knowing full well, a few of these will never make the grade.
     
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  19. remembercolinlee

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    have no idea why anyone thinks/thought sherwood should stay...

    1)tactically inept in too many matches, (west ham, Norwich, wba at home, 1st 30 mins v wba away, arsenal in cup, liverpool, Man city at home, benfica at home,)

    2)embarrassing arguments with other managers and players (benfica boss and sagna)

    3)no power of conviction...said it was better to watch from the stands but when criticised after liverpool match went back to touchline; publicaly slated sandro as not being worth a 1st team place and when criticised put in the squad the next week.

    4) public slating of players while constantly bigging himself up

    5) refusing to bring in left back cover which we were crying out for ... could have bought BAE back at no cost or not loaned out a reserve left back

    my only complaint is that the idiot who gave us;
    Hoddle (a man known to have serious man management problems and a bad relationship with pleat who was in charge of transfers)
    Pleat (the longest caretaker manager in our history...a relegation battle and THAT city result),
    Santini (tedious football,)
    ramos (the worst league start in our history and 3 prem wins between Feb and Oct 08),
    AVB (boring football and constantly blaming others...players, fans, medical team, journalists etc.) and
    sherwood
    (that's 6 terrible choices in 10 years) is the same idiot that will be choosing the next manager...so I am expecting Moyes...and to be back here in 6 -12 months time complaining at this ever growing list of **** managerial choices
     
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  20. Boss

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    Probably not but much of it must have been because he was universally hated and viewed as Anti Football. To the point he enjoyed the attention and being fairly successful. The fact as soon as he left Stoke he changed his approach means he needed a change to become Tony ""the Entertainer"" .....nicely timed to make Suarez shed tears!
     
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