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Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by HackerJack, Jun 21, 2011.

  1. Jager

    Jager Well-Known Member

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    The welsh clubs have been involved in the league pyramid longer than quite a few teams have existed, if you are that interested stop being lazy and research the matter, I dislike laziness clearly you are serving no purpose here!

    Swansea and Cardiff are not part of the FAW now, nor have we wanted to be for years, also its up to the individual FAs their decisions, for my mind there should be a gb side, but that is me! The double standards you speak are just useless old men running foitball, and that is the FAs , uefa and FIFA all of them
     
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  2. Jager

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    The FA next question !
     
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  3. Lord Duckhunter

    Lord Duckhunter New Member

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    http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/WhoWeAre

    What, the FA that was founded in 1863 as the governing body of the game in England?

    If so, why are the Welsh FA happy for Welsh based teams to play under the jurisdiction of an organisation, which in their own words is "the governing body of the game in England", but does not want Welsh players playing for a GB side. Surely you can see the inconsistency in that?
     
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  4. Jager

    Jager Well-Known Member

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    They are not happy, but we have played in the pyramid for 90 years, Wrexham have been part of it for longer than your club has existed, the point is we were invited to found the league all those years ago, funnily enough with qpr and norwich . So in other words we have played there ever since we created.

    Now go and do research, I can't be bothered replying to someone so lethargic in their football education , you not a rugby fan saying you are a footy fan are you ?
     
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  5. Lord Duckhunter

    Lord Duckhunter New Member

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    Why don't you try answering my point instead of throwing around insults.

    Do you not find the Welsh FA's stance slightly inconsistent, it is purely down to self interest and trying to protect their place on the IFAB.
     
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  6. HackerJack

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    No I don't. The Welsh FA's stance on us in the FA system is that they hate it, they would rather we died a financial death playing in the League of Wales but fortunately for us we existed before they did so they have no legal way of forcing us into their league.

    The FAW have consistently tried to apply protectionist measures against us, Cardiff, Wrexham, Newport, Merthyr and Colwyn Bay, throwing us out of the Welsh Cup and actually banning some clubs from playing in the country until, a court pointed out that it was illegal to do so.

    However the FAW's stance is up to them, it is not the stance of either Swansea City or it's fans. It has taken years but finally we are under the FA's jurisdiction (even if we do have to have an attention-seeking FAW guy on the panel) and can finally be treated equally to English based clubs.

    So in short the FAW are entirely consistent by being xenophobic protectionists. SCFC are consistent in wanting nothign to do with them.
     
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  7. Scottswan

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  9. Jager

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    I find the FAW stance pathetic , but that is beside the point, your post 31 says for us to play in the league of Wales that is an amateur league created in '91 , even though we have been in the pyramid since 1921, so why should we go and play in a league that will completely bankrupt the club, do you seriously think that we would get 20k watching Merthyr ? Or that professional players would come to us ?

    Now you insult our intelligence with your typical unresearched comments, there are many reasons why we don't play in an amateur league, and there are many reasons why we are glad to be out of the FAW , you seem to think that we get a soft ride with them, let me tell you that if we have a red card we get a 3 match ban, then it goes to the FAW and they double it , the player gets punished twice, and so does the club.

    The FAW are full grumpy old twats who are there just to further themselves, all the clubs playing in the pyramid hate them, they have employed someone hopelessly out of his depth as Wales manager, and they have given him I think a 4 year contract, they have basically ignored the most suitable man for the job, si is that what you want to hear ?
     
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  10. ShanghaiSwan

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    I found this on wikipedia... "In men's football (soccer), only three professional players over the age of 23 are eligible to participate per team in the Olympic tournament."

    So it's never going to be like World Cup Football.
     
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  11. Scottswan

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    Arsenal could probably play in that!
     
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  12. HackerJack

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    Indeed, there's also an agreement in place between FIFA and the Olympics that no player will be expected to play in both the Euros and Olympics, which is why European sides don't generally do as well.
     
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    hi lads

    Just want to say I've no problem with a one off UK team for 2012 or with Swansea being in the English pyramid system - you've always been there. I see most people on here agree with me. Can't really see the stance from the FAW here - surely having Welsh teams in the English league pyramid (or call it the UK pyramid if you'd rather) is more of a risk to their independence than a one off Olympics team?

    Good to see you coming under the FA jurisdiction though.
     
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  14. Scottswan

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    Basically, the easiest way of summing it up is to take it as given that the FAW is a joke. Keep that thought in your head and you'll never be far from the truth to be honest, and we've been wanting rid of them for years. About blooming time! No more double fines, one sided punishments and god knows what else!
     
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  15. Soaring Swan

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    This is going to be very unpopular and most people will be outraged but it has to be said.

    I think international football is archaic and a throwback to 19th century. It is going in the opposite direction to the modern world. To select players to play in a football team based on where they were born - or where their fathers or grandfathers were born - is beyond ludicrous in the modern world. Politics (political correctness) and sport should not mix. I support Wales having its own government and independence but sport is different. Now the Swans are in the premiership we should see the way forward for football. If there had been a high-profile world club competition then George Best and Ryan Giggs, playing for Man U, would have opportunity to make names even is South America.

    Why not have teams selected on the criteria of players born under a particular star sign? It would make as much sense. International football is like the Eurovision Song contest; the idea is not to find the best and the most talented but to `let everyone have a go' no matter how bad they are. It is this politically-correct `fairness' that is at odds with the spirit of competitiveness. Talent is not fair. It is cruel. A country may have 20 world-class players or none at all. I say leave nationalism outside sport and focus on playing teams that gell together for purely footballing reasons...not because they were born in the same plot of land.

    Had to get that off my chest.
     
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  16. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    I personally dont give a toss either way. If there is a Gb team in the Olympics great, If there isnt am i really bothered by that no. i agree with most the FAW are a complete joke and can really se no reason as to why they are objecting, likewise the sfa and irish fa. so what will be willbe. cant get excited by this one.
     
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  17. mustyfrog

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    IF there was a GB united side who would be in it??
     
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  18. Scottswan

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    The English team with Gareth Bale. They might as well have come out and said it from the start...
     
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  19. mustyfrog

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    noone else good enuf after the poms crashed outof the under 21s
     
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  20. Scottswan

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    I genuinely think if Gareth Bale hadn't come good this whole GB thing wouldn't have been an issue. Really, who else are they going to pick? 2 years ago, maybe Craig Gordon in goals, but now?!
     
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