i can see where you are coming from and if it were not for the FIFA trust issue i would be very much in line with your thoughts above, But i will always defend on here your right to make your views known, we hold differing views because fifa can not be trusted, mind you the amount of argueing i have done on this on 606 i dont blame you for thinking i am paranoid, i never resist the chance to get my tuppence worth when this topic arises on here
No No No No No No FIFA are not to be trusted. They are corrupt to the core and have for years been desperate for us to play as 1 UK team. The BOA have been incredibly naive, no wonder the Welsh and Scots FA's are climbing the walls. No disrespect meant to England, Scotland or Northern Ireland but this must not be allowed to happen. We are four separate countries all equal in importance, tradition and history. Isn't England v Scotland the oldest international match? Half a chance and they'll force us to amalgamate, the African countries especially have been itching for a chance to do it and as has rightly been said previously they dont like the fact that we have 1 vote each and generally all vote the same way. So sod a UK team, Cymru Am Byth I say
Well the competition has a GB team in every other event except this one, and I don't see how a GB will effect the status of the international sides at all, I think the home nations associations are the ones who are naive , they are a complete bunch of hysterical muppets protecting their own self interests , and I don't mean the football, but their own personal interests! I am for one agree with this, I also agree with a british side permanently, like the british lions but for football, and I also agree to a british league being endorsed, you may say it infringes into identity , I disagree we are british on the whole, with welsh , scottish and english within the isles, and NI makes the UK as a whole, you don't need a football team to be welsh. You may not agree, but its open for debate!
Jager In may 2009 the English were co signatories to an agreement that a Team GB could play at the Olympics in 2012, the welsh scottish and northern irish FA s reluctantly allowed the english to play as team GB, providing that the english did not attempt to pick any celtic nation players in their squad, the english fa were very happy to agree to this, so the celtic nations left it that, but the english fa and the boa were not in the end content with this, in the end they have been found to be untrustworthy in their dealings with the celtic nations and whats happened today has shown that they can not be trusted. FIFA have given verbal undertakings that we are safe, now i trust them even less than the english fa,
To be honest Mabon I don't really care, and I don't mean your stance on this, just that international football means completely zero to me, it's run by a corrupt organisation who are morally bankrupt, the individual FAs are run by old men who are as removed from reality as politicians are, in fact they are interchangeable and don't know which ones are the most incompetent! They have alienated clubs, players and the supporters, they have no purpose and should all be removed and be run by people who have a genuine interest in the game and how it's run, there should be no politics in it at all, I watch football to get away from that crap, but find it creeping into the sport. I know this may seem to burying my head in the sand, but I never watch the news, never read newspapers apart from the sports pages, the reason why is that news organisations only report bad news, why do I want to hear that ? So with that in mind it pisses me off that these people politicise sport !
The thing is Mabon politics are already involved, they had a vote on the next president if you like of FIFA , they had candidates who dropped out as time went along, until only one left, so they had a vote, what is exactly the point of that ? A vote with one candidate, they do that in belorussia and north Korea , so we have a dictator of FIFA , and the fans who pay for all this ultimately have no say. So now I just support the swans and that is it!
What has all this bollocks about not trusting FIFA got to do with it? If FIFA want to change our role on committees and could do so it would with or without 2012. Does anyone really think that a combined team or not for one tournament could influence that decision in any way? No, the fact is yes FIFA would like to combine us for admin/voting purposes (note that does NOT mean combined teams), however if they could do that they would have already done so.
you have the British lions, the england /wales cricket team so whats the problem, team GB will be just that .....players from the 4 home nations chosen to represent the UK.......no problem with that whatsoever, the athletes are from the 4 nations but still represents their own nations in other competitions, these Olympic games are a special sports event that happen every 4 years and we are represented under the banner of GB and due to the fact that football is included in the Olympics then we have a duty to the British people to field a GB team....and whats more the Olympics is being held on British soil this time so we must put our best effort to compete in all sports.....
If the Welsh FA are so principled and want to protect Welsh football's independence ,perhaps you lot should play in the League of Wales.
Wow Ducunter you´re original. Get your head back in the big book of moronic xenophobia and let us know when you find something funny yeah? Jager, I like the cut of your jib. Me you and Ivor should start a tv program with Mabon on hand as some kind of adjudicator for when we get a bit raucous... we´d have the world to rights (or the football world anyway!) in no time.
What on earth are you on about????? What is xenophobic about my post?????? What is the difference between a Welsh team playing in an English League and Welsh players playing for a UK team. Your FA seem to want it both ways.
I´m sorry, there appears to be an inaccuracy in your last post... can you please explain where we can find this "English League" you speak of? Until you can point me in the direction of it, your questions shall remain unanswered. I won´t hold my breath...
I apologise if you weren´t here solely on a wind up, but all we´ve had is idiots moaning about how we´ve taken up valuable space in their precious "English" league (which has no mention of England in the name, other than when referred to online so said idiots/idiots abroad get confused). If you´re not in that category, I apologise but stand by my points!
And they are not our FA as you put it, because Swansea and Cardiff are now in the FA , perhaps you should actually keep up with things instead of posting crap!
It's clearly not a Welsh, Irish or Scottish League, so it's either English, or if you want, a UK League. Why therefore do the Welsh FA allow Welsh teams to play in a UK League,but dont want Welsh players playing in a UK team? Does that not smell of double standards?
The FA, with a member of the FAW sitting in on any disciplinary hearing involving a Welsh club. Also, Welsh clubs have been a part of the league system since the leagues inception, and we were invited to join it. Hence why it is not and never has been called the "English Football League" and simply "The Football League".
Oh, and I´m still waiting for you to show me something official which says "English League". Bloody good thing I didn´t hold my breath, eh!
