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Official Not606 Spanish GP Chat and Predictions

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by EternalMSC, Apr 28, 2014.

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Who will win?

Poll closed May 8, 2014.
  1. Rosberg

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  2. Hamilton

    77.4%
  3. Alonso

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  4. Hulkenberg

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  5. Vettel

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  6. Ricciardo

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  7. Bottas

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  8. Button

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  9. Magnussen

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  10. Perez

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  11. OTHER PLEASE STATE IN BOLD

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  1. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    Vettel seemed a lot happier with the car considering how limited his running was this weekend, Seb said 3rd was within the grasp with Ricciardo so he doesnt have to change anything in his style as the improvements in the power unit will do that regardless. I'll listen to what Horner and Helmut saying it was a precaution with the tyre deg in china compared to Ricciardo.

    So many people talking and contradicting themselves about this chassis changed that I just don't really care anymore.
     
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  2. dhel

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    Sebastian Vettel will drive for Red Bull at next week's Barcelona in-season test
    German to share driving duties with Sebastien Buemi
    By William Esler. Last Updated: 10/05/14 12:45pm
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    Sky Bet

    2014 Drivers' Championship
    Lewis Hamilton 1/4
    Nico Rosberg 7/2
    Sebastian Vettel 14/1
    2014 Constructors' Championship
    Bet with Sky Bet
    Sebastian Vettel will remain in Spain following Sunday's Grand Prix to drive for Red Bull at next week's two day test at the Circuit de Catalunya which starts on Tuesday.

    The German will be at the wheel of the RB10 on Wednesday, taking over from Sebastien Buemi who will drive on the opening day of the test. Daniel Ricciardo, who drove on both days of the first in-season in Bahrain, will not take part in the running at Barcelona.

    Vettel has endured a difficult start to the 2014 season and missed out on valuable mileage during Friday Practice in Spain due to wiring loom problem. The test will be key for Red Bull as they seek to close the gap to the dominant Mercedes cars of Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg with no further tests scheduled until after July's British Grand Prix.

    Barcelona in-season test - driver line-ups
    Red Bull - Tuesday: Sebastien Buemi; Wednesday: Sebastian Vettel.
    Mercedes - Tuesday: TBA; Wednesday: TBA.
    Ferrari - Tuesday: TBA; Wednesday: TBA.
    Lotus - Tuesday: TBA; Wednesday: TBA.
    McLaren - Tuesday: TBA; Wednesday: TBA.
    Force India - Tuesday: TBA; Wednesday: TBA.
    Sauber - Tuesday: TBA; Wednesday: TBA.
    Toro Rosso - Tuesday: TBA; Wednesday: TBA.
    Williams - Susie Wolff: Days TBA.
    Marussia - Tuesday: TBA; Wednesday: TBA.
    Caterham - Tuesday: TBA;



    Now Vettel needs to use this test to try and get on top of the car a bit more, in fact I think he should do both days as Ricciardo isn't driving.
     
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  3. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    Looks like all his bad luck is coming at once.

    The three key ingredients to a title challenge are a good driver, a good car and good luck. 2/3 are missing so far this season.
     
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  4. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    Which is exactly why Helmut should have kept his trap shut over the whole affair. It's his bullshine that's brought about confusion.
     
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  5. dhel

    dhel Well-Known Member

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    I agree.... For the first time we are seeing another car beating Red Bulls in the twisty parts of any track. So we could conclude that Mercedes is not only fast engine wise, it has a great aero package. Everyone was wondering how they would stack up against Red Bull in Barcelona... Well we know now that this Mercedes is a car that will do well on any track.
     
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  6. BrightLampShade

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  7. Quagmireuk

    Quagmireuk Active Member

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    Yeah looks like it to me!

    How much torque steer do these cars have - looks like they can be a real handful on certain sections of the track!
     
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  8. BrightLampShade

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    Speed trap:

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    STR the fastest, Red Bull the slowest (of the 'working' cars)






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    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Sergio Perez[/TD]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]334.0[/TD]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]332.4[/TD]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Jenson Button[/TD]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]328.5[/TD]
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  9. ched999uk

    ched999uk Well-Known Member

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    WOW what did Kobayashi do to get that top speed out of the Caterham!!!!!!!!
     
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  10. Quagmireuk

    Quagmireuk Active Member

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    Farted??
     
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  11. GramP

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    Less downforce = less drag = high top speed but low speed through corners.
     
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  12. BamalamaFizzVaj

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    not really worth making such a conclusion, they have such a straight line speed advantage they can easily run more down force without caring if it increases drag. Red Bull are probably forced to do the opposite as well, as we saw when they tried testing a front wing with zero elements out of pure desperation.
     
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  13. dhel

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    Will the Mercedes duo get into a toggle in the first corner? That first corner will be crucial as there isn't much overtaking areas. Whoever gets into the first corner second will have to wait until the pitstop to try to get in front. I believe Alonso will get that third podium spot. I think he will do much better in the race. Massa was really quick off the line in last race but I think he was a little wild and dangerous.. And that cost him a better result. He needs to be quick off the line but he also needs to be sensible. I am happy for Grosjean, that was a really great job after all the problems lotus has been having since testing. I hope he does well. Kimi seems to be getting a handle on the car, hope he does better in the race. Maldonado.....hmmmmmm ... I think he should sit out the rest of the season and let the reserve driver take over... Somebody could get seriously injured if he keeps on like that. Seems like he isn't focused at all.
     
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  14. LewisF12014

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    I have a strong feeling Nico will get Lewis at Turn 1.
     
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  15. Mark Blow

    Mark Blow Well-Known Member

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    could it be just a case of feeling under pressure because the car's crap and trying too hard?
     
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  16. dhel

    dhel Well-Known Member

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    No
     
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  17. dhel

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    I think he will certainly try which could end up in a tangle.. At the same time Rosberg has to watch out for Ricciardo who is starting on the clean side. He wouldn't want Ricciardo to get in front so if he makes a mistake going after Hamilton then the red bull will be right up there.
     
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  18. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    It's a long straight so you would expect the guy behind to get the slipstream and get ahead going into turn 1.
     
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  19. Mark Blow

    Mark Blow Well-Known Member

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    The drivers press conference was hilarious when Nico said "I don't enjoy coming second to Lewis" and Lewis leaned over with a wry grin on his face and said "You've said that already"

    Rosberg will have a poor start like he did in China.
     
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  20. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    That's because he had no telemetry.
     
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