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The FA announce how new 'B League' will work within current structure

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by - Doing The Lambert Walk, May 8, 2014.

  1. PompeyLapras

    PompeyLapras Well-Known Member

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    Yes, and I wonder why that is?!
     
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  2. James G

    James G Well-Known Member

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    Oh, and four current first team players are headed to the next England U19s training camp. Did they not think to consult Les and Co. on this incomprehensible horseshit?
     
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  3. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    Steady on CBK, that is way too much logic for them. Instead, they will point the finger at local FA's and authorities to blame them.
     
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  4. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    I imagine they'll ignore Les. He was Technical Director at the FA back around 2000, I believe.

    Reed actually wrote the FA's youth coaching manual.

    But he had a falling out with a few people, not sure if they're still around though.
     
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  5. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    It's all a wee bit complicated and impossible. There will only be 10 teams in Division 3. Premiership clubs can choose between div3 and the conference? So 10 conference clubs have to be relegated. When a premiership club gets relegated what happens to the B team? When a championship team gets promoted where does their B team fit? Complete load of bollocks! Will never happen so don't fret!
     
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  6. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    I just can't believe it.

    There are so many ideas that I could come up with off the top of my head which could/would massively help, and they come out with this ****
     
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  7. Qwerty

    Qwerty Well-Known Member

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    Yep. Move youth football season to Summer (March-October or whatever). 1% salary tax to be spend on local/youth/community football. Job done.
     
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  8. Osvaldorama

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    Amazing idea.

    This, as well as improving coaching and bringing back reserve football are the only things that need changing. Minor tweaks to the loan system and homegrown rules as well as an English player quota. Done.
     
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  9. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like a good suggestion for Saints to take up. I know they do a lot for charity but backing kids football is a good one...improved fitness has long term health benefits. Kreuger seems to like us being seen as a community club.
     
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  10. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    I'm fairly sure The Saints Foundation have been investing in 3G pitches, coaching kids and new floodlighting and the likes for existing facilities.

    But that's just one part of one club, trying to do their bit.
     
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  11. AL.

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    Oh I see. That's a good point, and hope that would be the case. Although, I think the loan system is very beneficial to lower league clubs, and even Championship clubs. Look at Leicester, their player of the year this season was Danny Drinkwater, who they initially had on loan from Man United. They gave him the chance and he is going to be playing PL football now. Same could be said for Burnley, as Trippier was a Man City a short time ago, and again he will be in PL next season. It is all about giving people a chance.
     
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  12. pass the football

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    I'm not against the idea of building more pitches, but it seems a bit of a weak argument that we are failing as a football nation because of winter. Couldn't they just play indoors? The confined space might mean they actually develop some skill.
     
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  13. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Cricket wouldn't like that. A lot of sporty kids do both.
     
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  14. Piebacca

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    Don't try and blame the authorities for that.
     
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  15. PompeyLapras

    PompeyLapras Well-Known Member

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    Bullshit. When big clubs can come in and hoover up the best players and pay a pittance in compensation of a couple of hundred thousand if you're lucky no matter how friggin' talented they are, or a big club can just move in even and hoover all the best players in the area leaving a local club with what's left.... then is it any wonder that small clubs don't see academies as financially viable?
     
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  16. pass the football

    pass the football Well-Known Member

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    So why don't all big clubs have better academies than we do?

    Actually on a slight tangent, did you see Les Reed talking on late kick off about the fact that the players we develop who don't make it with us will then go back to the kinds of clubs that you would consider they had been stolen from in the first place, probably as better players than they would have been had they stayed at a smaller club? What do you make of that?
     
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  17. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    I imagine Les is right...even players who don't make it to our first team will have benefitted from our training.
     
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  18. PompeyLapras

    PompeyLapras Well-Known Member

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    By small club, I'm not referring to Southampton. I'm referring to the Wycombes, the Barnets, the Rochdales, etc.

    I'm talking about the Chelskis and the Man Citys of the world where there is pretty much no bridge between the first team and the academy, not teams like Southampton where academy players are brought into the first team.

    For those kids who aren't lucky enough to play in the Southampton Academy, all it means is they'll have a few years playing youth football, not getting any first team experience, before being discarded and their development as a player would have taken a big hit. They then filter down to the lower league sides much less developed than they would have been otherwise had they stayed at the lower league club in the first place. Yes they got to experience better training facilities, but that's counteracted by the complete lack of playing opportunities.

    As for the smaller clubs themselves, even if they do get back a player which they sold, they'll have still lost out on a potentially substantial amount of money (even for players that don't make it in the Premier League squad) which could make a huge difference to the financially stability of the team.

    So ultimately the player loses out because their development will be negatively effected while the smaller club loses out on a potentially big pay-day. It's great for the big clubs though, they can hoover up the talent of the League 1 and League 2 academies as they know no matter how talented a player is, they'll only have to pay a minimal rate for them, and if it doesn't work out, it's no harm done to them.

    There will of course be some players who the system does benefit, but that would be such a small proportion anyway....
     
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  19. Wide Bill

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    Sounds like a dreadful idea. He only seems interested in servicing the needs of the top 4
     
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  20. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Considering that he must know the proposal inside out, Dyke was unconvincing on Sky...seemed hazy about details.
     
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