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Man City and Financial Fair Play.

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by trundles left foot, May 6, 2014.

  1. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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  2. bigkidderz

    bigkidderz Well-Known Member

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    There is a point in the fine. Peanuts for them, maybe, but a fortune to most. It's set a clear precedent that others won't want to follow. How many clubs could've realistically afforded Torres? Every club you can think of that couldn't, also wouldn't be able to afford this fine.
     
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  3. Bob the slob

    Bob the slob Well-Known Member

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    A fine is meaningless

    Points deductions are the only effective deterrent.
     
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  4. LIBERTARIAN

    LIBERTARIAN Well-Known Member

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    How about both - a fine and points deduction?
     
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  5. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Good to see you are able to grasp the complexities of the issue's here Vetch, I'm impressed!................<laugh>
     
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  6. DerekTheMole

    DerekTheMole Well-Known Member

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    £50million is a lot even to rich clubs. Otherwise they'd just chuck £100m+ at the players they really want. This fine + restriction is decent start and actually more than I expected.
     
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  7. LIBERTARIAN

    LIBERTARIAN Well-Known Member

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    So am I Dragon,so am I. <cheers>
     
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  8. stevejack

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    The fine is spread over 3 years so not quite as nasty as it could have been. Ironically fining these clubs will no doubt add to the debt they can't account for and thus push them further into a breach of FFP.
    The reduction of the CL squad is interesting (especially since they have to register 8 home grown players, at least 4 of whom have to come through the academy). If they don't have enough home grown players they have to leave a space in the selection so they could end up with fewer than the 21 allowance for failing FFP.

    Is FFP a good thing though? On the surface yes but then it could lead to the worlds biggest clubs (man U, Barca, Real, Bayern etc) entrenching themselves at the top without serious challenge. The prem would be far more boring if it was just Arsenal and Man U every season (by virtue of being the biggest clubs financially and by stadium size etc). At least Chelsea and City have made things a bit more open.
     
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  9. DragonPhilljack

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    <laugh>..Well all I'm interested in is the fact that we are still in the Premier League, well that and maybe Cardiff's move south!...<cheers>
     
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  10. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet
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    They should be banned from Europe and a transfer embargo put on them until they balance the books.
     
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  11. Monty Fisto

    Monty Fisto Well-Known Member

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    I think it's important to remember we voted against FFP.
     
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  12. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    When every player is a multi millionaire then they dont worry about a fine. Points deduction would hit them harder...
     
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  13. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    If it was Swansea or another club outside the top 6 there would be no problem, they would fine and dock points without hesitation. The big clubs get away with most offences with just fines that don't make much difference to them, The FA will always protect the cream of the premiership...
     
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  14. ProjectVRD

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    They already have banned teams from playing UEFA competitions, and as you state... They weren't big money clubs.

    Two sets of rules, people.
     
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  15. scfc.no

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    We voted against because the rules are not strict enough...
     
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  16. Bob the slob

    Bob the slob Well-Known Member

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    Aren't the limits set by the value of the club? If so we could have difficulty complying as our value is only in our players; we don't own our ground and our brand name isn't like that of a Barcelona or Real.
    But there again we won't be in the Champions League any time soon.
     
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  17. Monty Fisto

    Monty Fisto Well-Known Member

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    We voted against because we've succeeded with the current system and therefore wanted to keep it.
     
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  18. glamexile

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    Its the restrictions affecting the their Champions League chances that will have the greatest impact. A limit of 21 players not 25, no increase in the CL A squad wage bill and importantly 8 locally trained players in the 21.
     
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  19. Bob the slob

    Bob the slob Well-Known Member

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    Don't all their players train locally?
     
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  20. glamexile

    glamexile Well-Known Member

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    This is what my research has come up with
    A &#8220;locally trained player&#8221; can be either &#8220;club-trained&#8221; or &#8220;association-trained&#8221;. There is little difference between these two terms, both essentially mean that that player must have been registered with the club (or with another club affiliated to the same national association) for three full seasons, or 36 months, between the age of 15 and 21. This applies irrespective of nationality.
    This suggests that we may see some transfer activity to bolster their quota of &#8220;locally trained players&#8221; if needed.
     
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