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  1. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    According to the Italian press, Queens Park Rangers have lowered their demands for Adel Taarabt, but AC Milan want a cheaper deal.

    Adel Taarabt has been a surprise success story for AC Milan, but the Rossoneri are driving a hard bargain over his permanent purchase.

    A few eyebrows were raised when Milan signed Taarabt, who was on loan to Fulham from Queens Park Rangers, in January on loan until the end of the season.

    But the Moroccan has been excellent in Serie A and was part of the side that beat rivals Inter last night to strengthen their bid for Europa League football.



    Milan have enjoyed something of a renaissance over the last two months and Taarabt's form has been a significant factor.

    Now Milan are attempting to prevent the 24-year-old having to return to Loftus Road, but they are said to be keen to reduce QPR's asking price.

    According to Tuttosport, a meeting between Milan CEO Adriano Galliani and Taarabt's representative Kia Joorabchian has been held to discuss personal terms and they look likely to be agreed.

    SEE ALSO: Five games to decide Taarabt future

    However, although QPR have reportedly agreed to reduce their demands from £6m to closer to £5m, Milan are said to be unwilling to go higher than £3.2m.

    The difference between the two clubs' valuations may be significant, but Taarabt clearly wants to stay and Milan are determined to keep him, so a permanent deal still looks likely this summer.

    Should QPR sell Taarabt to AC Milan?
     
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  2. awjm

    awjm Well-Known Member

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    They're just playing the game. We'll either get more for him or can sell him for higher to another club because of his performances this season.

    QPR should really be tough on this one and not accept much less than their valuation. They should bargain hard.
     
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  3. EscapeGoat

    EscapeGoat Well-Known Member

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    It's time Phillip Beard actually did his job not get mugged off as per

    £6 million or Milan can do one

    Every time Taarabt players well his value should rise, and with respect to the market, if someone as bad as Ricky Van Wolfswinkel can command a £7 million fee then Taarabt should be sold on at least parity with that.
     
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  4. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    Milan and Adel hold all the cards unless there is another bidder that he would be happy to go to. Otherwise here is the play:

    - we say £6m
    - Milan say no, £4m tops
    - neither side budges
    - Adel stays our player, but doesn't want to be here, goes back to his bad old ways, we end up paying his wages for no return.
    - everybody loses.

    Just because you want to sell your very nice house for £1m doesn't mean anyone wants to buy it for that price.

    Get real lads. He will go for £4 to £5m, unless Real, PSG or someone shows a serious interest.
     
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  5. TootingExcess

    TootingExcess Well-Known Member

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    Can see the likes of Sunderland or Newcastle offering more - if it was SWP then it would be a buyers market, but I reckon Adel would have more suitors Stan.
     
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  6. QPAAAAAGH

    QPAAAAAGH Well-Known Member

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    It could be that I'm totally off-beam but I find even the upper end of this scale disappointing. He's only 24 so at that time in his career when players attract the most transfer value and we have him under contract for two more years I believe so £6m seems like peanuts to some of the recent deals. Yes, I know how inconsistent he has been throughout his career so far but either Milan want him or they don't. We should at least wait until after play-offs before finalising any deal. If we're promoted we should say no to anything less than £10 as there will be less pressure to balance the books. Personally I still dream of him fulfilling his potential with us somehow...
     
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  7. Peter Damage

    Peter Damage Well-Known Member

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    £6m is too low anyway let alone £5m- If we come down further to £4m remember 40% of that goes to Spuds anyway so we are effectively selling him for £2.4m

    So considering what he can do I think it is idiotic to consider receiving just £2.4m for him.

    Lets ‘resist’ that £2.4m or £3m we would actually receive and stand our ground. That money wont make a difference to us.

    It is your assumption that he would ‘go back to his old ways’. It’s a calculated risk that we stand our ground. Going back to ‘his old ways’ could just as easily mean getting us promoted (if we’re still here) or scoring goals and creating chances just like he is at Milan now.

    His potential added value is worth a lot more to us than £2.4m. Realistically he won’t write off 2 years of his career not trying for us. He would contribute and he will be coming back to us a better player. Empahasis on it being worth finding out on a simple risk reward basis.

    We are the selling club. We are in the position of power. That is the reason why Hudersfield got £8m for Jordan Rhodes. Lazio got a £7m for Kozak. Peterborough got £8.5m for Dwight Gayle from Palace and Spuds paid £30m for Lamela!! With your mentality they wouldnt have got a fraction of that.

    We set the price. Personally I would start at £12m considering how good he has been for them and maybe cave in at £10m mainly because we’ve put our self in an unnecessarily more difficult position by loaning him in the first place.
     
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  8. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    It's all speculation, I hope I'm wrong and we get £12m or a fully committed Adel playing for us. But I won't be surprised if we get considerably less.
     
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  9. Kilburn

    Kilburn Well-Known Member

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    Compared to some of the dross that has traded in that price range, e.g. Ricky van Wolfswinkel to Norwich with 1 goal in 27 games, Adel must be worth at least that and he's only 24 and still developing.
     
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  10. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    Yep, but it depends on who apart from Milan is interested. Supply and demand. Van Wolfswinkel scored 45 goals in the 2 seasons prior to joining Norwich. He wasn't dross when he joined, just like Granero, Mbia, Diakite etc etc weren't dross before they joined us.

    I'm obviously holding an unpopular viewpoint on this. I'd love him to be playing for us again, just can't imagine it happening. And a few months ago at Fulham he barely got a kick. His value is what the market says it is.
     
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  11. Tring QPR

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    About spot on in my view - I think 4 mill + various add ons - we get pretty much zip after the Spurs cut
    But remember who was the man played out of his skin and was the major factor in our promotion ???
    He was found out in the Premiership and to have him back just wont work, we should be happy for the few seasons ago when AT was on fire and loved the shirt
    time to move on..............
     
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  12. El Pirata

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    They're just using the fact that he doesn't want to go back to QPR and no other club is interested in him. He's worth 10 millions at least and he's been pretty good for them.
     
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  13. Peter Damage

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    This is the point you keep on missing. It isnt one way. The process begins with the selling club setting a price. This is based on what comparable players have gone for, what it will cost to sign a replacement and what is worth to us (can he influence promotion or survival and the money that’s worth).

    Using your house example from your original post and comparing this against a broadly acceptable £10m value for Adel... You assess what its worth by combination of what other comparable houses are going for, what it would cost to buy a house of comparable quality and what it is worth to you (different aspects to consider here). You decide its worth a million.

    But based on your logic you would let it go for 400k or actually 240k once you give away 40% owed to someone else when you sell it.

    Not sure how that’s sensible. Only idea is that Phil Beard has hacked your account
     
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  14. Sooperhoop

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    I think it really doesn't matter what we THINK he's worth, for the past year he's been worth f*ck-all because he doesn't want to be here. Now he's had a bit of success at Milan, where the Italian style of play is obviously more to his liking, he'll never come back and, unless any other team shows an interest, Milan will get him cheapo and with 40% going to that Scrooge Levy we'll be left with peanuts. Somehow that seems just about right for the monumental f*ck-ups with him since we were promoted...
     
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    Hoops Eternal Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely spot on. He's made it quite clear that he doesn't want to play for us so we should get we can for him and move on
     
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  16. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    As I said above, I hope you are right, and we will see where the market values him.
     
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  17. devonqprboy

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    We should also remember that Spurs get a sizeable chunk of any sell-on profit.
     
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  18. Busy Being Headhunted

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    That is a shame, but as long as we make 2 million on him it will be worth selling
     
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  19. daverangers

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    Entirely agree. Plus, the fact he has made it so clear he doesn't want to be with us won't help us get a good price for him. Sadly, I feel Taarabt has used us for all we are worth to him, and now is looking to move on no matter what the benefit or loss is to QPR.
     
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  20. Peter Damage

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    What is it that is so hard to understand?!?!?!!?!? He is under contract if we don't want to sell him then he is staying here. If you think he'll sulk then I cant see how it isn't worth calling that bluff and keeping him for 2 years because the potential upsides are so great.

    He wont write off 2 years of his career as he works towards his peak and has ambitons to meet. Simple motivation: tell him Adel our price is £10m / £12m unless someone pays this by September then your staying... Come January you can go for say £9m. You've got till then to prove that your worth that much and repeat with a new price for the next transfer window.

    Simple choice for him: waste 2 years and ruin your chance of achieving his obviously high ambitions or prove that your worth at least as much as Ricky Van Wolfswinkel

    You don't have to look far for recent examples of holding a player to contract being worth it... Joey Barton!!!!! Made it clear he didn't want to be here. Marseille wouldn't pay his wages. We wouldn't top up and fill the gap. Conclusion we hold him to contract and is touted by many on here (co-incidentally a strong correlation with the anti-Adel mob) as a potential POTY

    Other recent and famous examples of holding a player to contract. Luis Suarez at Liverpool, okay eventually gave him a new contract some months later but even before then it didn't go too bad.

    Also Carlos Tevez- refusing to come off the bench and being written off. Slated by many wanted to be let go by some on a free. City keep hold of him, he comes back and is key in their title winning season and eventually sold on for a wedge to Juventus

    If anyone can find a better alternative in his role for 2.4m then you should send your cv to TF and get a job as a scout.
     
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