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Massimo Master Plan

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by BillysStatue, May 4, 2014.

  1. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe you can continually sell your best players every season. Regardless of what people say Ross has been playing at a consistent level for 3 seasons now, he hasn't scored as many in his previous seasons but he was still playing very well in different ways, either topping our scoring or assist charts. There is absolutely no reason to believe he can't be just as consistent next year, maybe he won't score as many but you'd still expect he'd be up there around the 20 goal margin in the same sort of setup and in a different setup he'd adapt and be equally as creative
     
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  2. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

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    I would not be at all, I'm still dumbfounded to how Becchio was successful. One of the worst footballers I have seen that has somehow made a career for himself, to not be able to control the ball at prem level is laughable imo.
     
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  3. BillysStatue

    BillysStatue Well-Known Member

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    Josh ... McCormack didn't say the word "spend", but he did say he wants the owner to push for promotion next season which, well, equates to the same thing ... if Ross doesn't believe we have a team capable of challenging he will be gone, and you can be sure we will be fielding offers for him in July so it will be down to the level of commitment to rebuilding the team that will probably be the deciding factor ... can't see Cellino gambling on another season of Ross scoring plenty if £6m plus is put on the table


    "For the sake of Leeds United he would break himself in two"
     
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  4. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    my comments on Ross seeming too demanding are aimed at him in general and the build up to his last two contract extensions? I am not suggesting we sell him but if he isn't happy with the build up to next season let him go, sustainability is a greater priority.
     
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  5. celticyorkie

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    This thing about ross's goals saving us was because of one thing, we cant bloody defend. Sort out leaky defence and we would not need a 30 goal striker. a 1-0 win with goal from anywhere would do me. If we sold Ross got a strong goalkeeper, CB,CM and Cf a strong backbone, that would clear a few things up. Maybe also think about a captain who can lead the team doesnt have to be flash player a leader who can motivate in darkest of positions.
     
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  6. BillysStatue

    BillysStatue Well-Known Member

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    good points celtic ... the thing is with Cellino clearly focused on making the club profitable and buying back ER, we have to be realistic and accept the fact that £6m goes a long way to achieving phase one for Massimo ... ristac's point about sustainability is accurate, regardless of what Ross wants ... Cellino will sell McCormack if the right offer comes in, because promotion is not his goal next season, a profitable, self-sufficient club is ... we may only get the exciting signings we crave next year, but then again Cellino is so unpredictable and he may get the Football Manager bug next month and go transfer crazy


    "For the sake of Leeds United he would break himself in two"
     
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  7. Norwayleedsforever

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  8. kiwi

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    Two seasons ago Ross hit 20-odd goals for us. The season after he wasn't as successful, but that was under Warnock and he was playing wide in order to accommodate Becchio for much of the year. Still finished as the second top scorer (8) and made 13 assists. This year he's hit nearly 30. He may not repeat this season again, and £6m may prove too tempting an offer, but I think he's been pretty consistent since he joined us (barring his first season). Wouldn't be surprised at all if he was to repeat this season again.
     
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  9. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Again I am not saying I want him sold but we must not be held to ransome either. If Ross wants to perform for us next season then great. If he starts demanding that we sign certain quality players or he is wanting away then goodbye.

    Massimo will not be bringing in well known big named players, his priority is to stop us bleeding money. As long as he is an owner willing to reinvest what we make then that is okay by me for now
     
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  10. BillysStatue

    BillysStatue Well-Known Member

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    Correct ristac ... as fans I think we are going to have our patience tested in the summer unless Cellino has a drastic change of heart ... the one thing that may influence our transfer activity will be if Cagliari is sold, because Cellino could easily pump that money straight into Leeds as a continuation of his "soccer project" ... if Cellino gets say £20m out of the Cagliari sale, he would effectively be in a position to buy back ER and put additional money into the team ... I do believe the Cagliari sale will be pivotal in the quest to buy back ER ... Cagliari is also a distraction for Cellino right now, as he needs to focus on their squad and manager for next season as well, and he has to get it right to make Cagliari a desirable investment for buyers ... if he still hasn't sold by the start of next season and Cagliari slump to the bottom of Serie A his valuation will take a knock ... the Cagliari sale is definitely going to impact on us in some form


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  11. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Isn't it just typical of us. Our future always seems to hang on stuff seemingly unconnected to leeds. First it was the damn yacht now the sale of a serie a club. Just typical
     
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  12. OLOF

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    That's just Billys opinion Eire, Cellino may have other plans, its a wait and see game I'm afraid
     
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  13. Eireleeds1

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    Of course Olof. One thing Cellino can't be accused of is being predictable. A nice change for us actually
     
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  14. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I do believe it would be a great bonus for us if he could sell Cagliari, I have to agree with BS. Remember Cagliari are also losing money each week, Cellino won't have a bottomless pit of money. The sooner they are sold and he can give us 100% of his attention and spare funds the better.

    What we don't want is for him to stabilise us but the money gets used to keep Cagliari afloat, not suggesting that would happen however Cellino does float with dubious decisions and I would hate for him to be hit with some financial possibly crippling fine for his questionable past.

    You never know what is round the corner so the sooner he can buy back ER and make us profitable the better.
     
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  15. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Are you sure Cagliari are losing money. Thought I read Cellino saying they make a profit now
     
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  16. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I heard they play home games at away grounds and have to pay high rent and obviously travelling costs? You could be right Eire but with gates under 10k I could quite believe they lose a big amount every week
     
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  17. Whitejock

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    I'm pretty sure I heard him say they're in profit. Perhaps not week to week, right enough - perhaps they balance the books by selling players? Think the reason they play home games so far away is that the nearer grounds thought they had him over a barrel & wanted big money - & of course, being Massimo, he called their bluff!
     
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  18. Eireleeds1

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    What I also read Jock. Thought I was dreaming it
     
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  19. BillysStatue

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    Interesting to hear Carbone expanding a bit more on Cellino's thinking ... massive cost cutting at the Academy because Cagliari's Academy runs at 70% cheaper ... Cagliari Academy blueprint to be brought to Leeds ... plan is to get five or more Academy players into first team ... Leeds need to develop talent and then sell one or two a year to make big money, because its not coming from Cellino's pockets ... a bit contradictory if you ask me, what is the policy then? Build a team that has a nucleus of Academy players to take us forward, or sell our best talent every season? Oh fcuk .......


    "For the sake of Leeds United he would break himself in two"
     
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  20. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    I think until Cellino has extinguished all the fires at Leeds ie crippling debts, he won't know himself what he'll have towards team building. Whatever he does, we won't be worse off. However we may have to settle for mid table mediocrity for quite a while. Who knows
     
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