QPR v Millwall ( MD Thread )

This. I have no idea why some think we should be 'positive' (ie lie) on these boards because we have the playoffs coming up. Do others think being positive on these boards is going to somehow imporve HR's tactical nous or the teams chances on the pitch? I don't boo in the ground, I chant and clap for the players, but I will absolutely be honest on these boards.

 

At many times this season we've had up to half the first team squad out injured, does anyone think that any other team in the league could finish 4th with the injuries we've had? Most people on here had us down to finish mid table pre season and now are complaining that we have finished in the playoffs, there is no reason we can't win the playoffs and I hope that the players are more positive about it then some of you lot, I bet you'll still go to the games? Maybe you shouldn't go to wembley if we get there in protest at the bad tactics?

 

The problem is that we offend the sense of right and wrong of those who think that we should simply get behind our manager because he has had a moderate degree of success in the past. For some, support is measured by the degree to which you simply accept the club line. Dare to criticise and there will always be some on here who doubt your sanity, passion for your team and the extent of your support. The fact that the efforts shown by my team and the tactics deployed at some of the games I have attended this season are an insult to the fans who pay good money to get behind their team tends to be glossed over. Say it as it is my friend.

 

The latter complaint I can empathise with. But I honestly don't think anyone could motive this group any more than Redknapp has. They're just not that kind of squad unfortunately. The rot couldn't be cleared out in one Summer alone although it was as much as was possible. The player's attitudes are their own responsibility and since COLIN and Sparkless began to bring in the mercenaries, disaster awaited. I can see that now. Mr Motivator himself could only get this crop to do so much.

What do you make of SH67's post on the last page regarding the squad being vastly overrated by some fans? I think he has a point.

 

Are you suggesting that you're a better supporter?

I wrote out a thread a few minutes ago and didn't post it in the end because I thought your sort would give me stick for it.

WE ARE NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT BEING IN THE PLAYOFFS! WE ARE COMPLAINING THAT THE FOOTBALL IS NO GOOD AND WE WILL BE PULLED TO PIECES IF WE DONT IMPROVE IT UPON PROMOTION, IF WE ARE PROMOTED.

Also, we're sick of seeing **** football. It doesn't feel good to be at the stadium watching ****. Do you expect me to stand there all happy clappy, singing my heart out to **** football? I sing every song that comes up. I called QPR on Thursday to ask if I could take a drum. But I'm complaining about lack of tactics, gameplan, quality team and formation selection and the fact that our highly paid coaching staff can't seem to see the problems.

 

Ah now that's nonsense. I would have agreed with you but complaining that we're sh*t in case we get promoted makes zero sense. If we get promoted then it will all have been worthwhile and like every other team that comes up through the playoffs we'll have to invest in and strengthen our squad. I can understand people being very angry if we fail this season and don't go up but if we do, that will be mission accomplished - regardless of how we did it.

Don't try to run before you can even walk mate. If we do win promotion then we can cross that next bridge you're referring to when we come to it.

 

Don't WUM me. Why not just reduce you're name to "...thick..."

 

I can't even be bothered anymore, my friend. Let's just hope things turn out well.

 

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He has a point but imo it is the manager who has consistently been vastly overrated. Our tactics have been pretty dire and I repeat what I have said consistently - banking our whole season on our best players not getting injured was a huge cock up, the blame for which cannot be allocated anywhere else. Tony Fernandes backed him to the hilt and brought a lot of dross to the club because they were Harry's boys.

As for motivation, you are being rather selective here. When we were pissing over the rest of the division by 1-0 wins. I remember you and others praising him for getting rid of the dross, the prima donnas and instilling a team spirit among them. Any dissent from that rosy picture was immediately put down as the first signs of madness, negativity and the signs of a secret desire that we should fail. Now you tell me that it is a mercenary element brought in by his predecessors. That really is nonsense. The one thing Harry is consistent about is that he had to get rid of 18-20 players who did not want to be here and replace them with the 'lovely lads' he knew who did. This is his team not Warnock's or Hughes'. The tactics are his or at least they should be. He certainly took credit for them when things were going well at the start of the season.

I agree with you about the mentality of the players in the squad. It is perhaps not surprising that the ones who are not infected are Austin, Matt Phillips, Simpson, Dunne and Hill none of whom had previously played for Redknapp. Contrast their attitude with the likes of Krancjar, BAE, O'Neill - all players who have a tendency to throw their toys out of the pram when things don't go their way.

Any way rant over. We're in the play offs and, as you say, over a couple of matches we have as much chance as anyone else. I'll be there if I can get a ticket and watch it on telly if not. Hopefully the gods will be with us but I will always remember this season as one of the most disappointing ones to watch as a supporter. It would be nice if we could actually put together a complete performance over the whole 90 minutes but judged by what I have had to watch so far, I will be extremely surprised if that should happen.

 

Maybe not better, but certainly more positive! You say the football is no good and of course it is below the standard we should be but what is good football really? The reality is football is a results business and over 45 games this season only three teams have had better results overall and none of them have had a fraction of the injury problems we have had! Most of us would have taken 4th place at the start of the season with the home advantage for the second playoff game, we have every chance of going up and if we do then no doubt there will be plenty of changes to the team before next season.

 

Agree with this, we've made some huge mistakes with transfer dealings & contracts the past 2-3 season that have affected us ever since. I'm looking forward to the clear out out a new team/squad for the coming seasons being assembled. We already have a number of decent members & some youngsters that need adding to.

 

You'd want to be careful there, claiming someone said something which they actually never did. I praised Redknapp for changing the mood around the squad in as much as he could in one window. I never claimed he had completely transformed it because, as I said above, it was an impossibility. Nobody could have changed it around from what it was in such a short space of time. People have short memories. You seem to forget how putrid the squad was. I've never in all my life come across one so rotten. That's why my pre-season prediction had us going down again! Yet here we are in the Playoffs. A very positive turnaround IMO, despite all the mistakes he's made.

Do you seriously think that that total mess of a squad could have been revamped in one window to such an extent that we'd have won the league or finished second this year?

That's total madness mate. Pure fantasy land.

So out of the five players you list with a good attitude, four of them were brought in by Redknapp, yet you somehow use that against him?!!

As far as I'm aware, O'Neill and Kranjcar haven't thrown any toys anywhere, let alone out of a pram, since they were at the Club. Ekotto yes, he's been a prick but one poor attitude signing can't justify your argument. He's let his Manager down but there you go. You can't get every signing spot on regarding their temperament. All the rest of his signings have generally shown a decent level of professionalism.

Of course you could have gotten your wish in the Summer and gotten one of the "hot properties" of the time like Adkins or Matt Lucas but then you could be down in mid-table or still be struggling to nail down a playoff berth.

We'll know very soon if Redknapp was the right man for this season. It all hinges on winning the upcoming competition.

 

Evening Ninesey, how are you mate?

 

I thought it was a fair question Totallywigan

 

Good medicine mate. For some reason I'm trying to stay awake to see the 'highlights' after flying back home this morning.

 

The question should be - Why have we had so many similar injuries (ie hamstring etc). Who is in charge of conditioning? I've made the point several times that Pearson had 96% of his first team squad to pick from because they employ modern methods of training, conditioning & monitoring of players. We meanwhile are run by a bunch of dinosaurs. Burnley had hardly any injuries either. That just can't be luck over a 46 game season. This needs to be looked at.
I know it's pure conjecture but with the money and the quality of players in the squad (accepted this is theoretical based on their supposed ability on paper) do you not think Pearson, Dyche, McLaren or Rosler wouldn't have got more out of them - if nothing else we might have had some coherent strategy around tactics and team selection.