Not true and the stats prove it, and Monk has got us our first back to back wins in over 17 months, and you can thank your inept Laudrup for such a long time without back to back wins, thank goodness the board had the balls to sack him......................
Exactly, from everyone thinking we were heading for relegation to being safe. If we win the next two his league ratio is already ahead of Laudrup's.
May I just remind you, that our boards executive competence was what got us here in the premier league in the first place, and it was also the executive decision of our Swansea board that rescued our season from certain relegation under a very inept manager, thank goodness he's gone and it's taken a Rookie to show him how it's done!.................
Whether you're pro or anti Laudrup I can't understand the use of the word inept unless you're referring to a specific time in his tenure? How can a manager be inept when he delivered our best season ever? Some people down the Lib said the same thing about Rodgers when he left. Need I finish the point? Laudrup may or may not have deserved the sack but inept? No.
If you want a specific time period, try looking at the dire results from our Wembley cup win until his rightful sacking, I think the word inept just about sums up his managerial skills, how many wins in that period? Inept doesn't come close....................
That's why i mentioned a specific time period. We were really poor during that period and I agree with you there. But that doesn't make an excellent manager inept. If he was an inept mManager we wouldn't have had such a fantastic season last time. Inept managers can't deliver that. Still worried about Monk getting the job full time but will back him and the team 100%. Just an opinion.
Whether you're pro or anti Laudrup I can't understand the use of the word inept Inept is not the right word........He was Bloody awful and had an ego to match, He thought he was bigger and too good for the club and wanted to change everything. Im so glad jinx finally saw through him and got rid where he is finding out that no big club will touch him with a barge pole. What a lucky escape we have had and its thanx to the board and monk that they had enough time to reverse everything off and on the pitch to save our season.
That's right if daiswan says it then it must be right. If teams only employed managers without egos then Ferguson, Mourinho et al would never have got a job. The results were absolute **** in that period though I agree.
"Yankee said..... This decision is in the short term best interest of the Noard - not the Club. I challenge anybody to rebut that statement with a cogent arguement." Sorry Yankee but everything you say appears to be based on conjecture not fact. Conjecture can not be refuted (that's the word you were looking for by the way) only argued. A statement based on nothing more than conjecture is as irrelevant as a breeze in a hurricane so I challenge you Yankee, or anyone, to offer us some verifiable facts to justify your bias view. "the board are unprofessional", "that Laudrup's sacking was nothing more than a knee jerk reaction", "that the board panicked and sacked Laudrup", "that the board appointed Monk to suit their own needs and not in the interest of the club", the same club they've steered so successfully for the last ten years. I offer you the last ten years of unbridled success (fact) to refute anything you may conjure up. I challenge you to substantiate your biased opinions with fact based statements and not simple unsubstantiated conjecture.
If he gets a result against Southampton, then fair enough (even if I would prefer not). It isn't time to split hairs but we have just beaten two very poor teams in total tree-fall; add to those Norwich and Cardiff! It does at least show we can beat the teams who we should beat (something we have had a problem with for many years).
Simple stats do prove that Monk has a better return, I accept that. Because I am not hiding away from it, but lets see if you will show the same when you look at this instead. Monk has 15 from 12. ML from the reverse fixtures picked up 13 from 12 So Monk has indeed got the better return, however, you have to be pretty silly not to at least acknowledge that Monk has played 5 home games against bottom half clubs (Cardiff, West Brom, Villa, Palace, Norwich) where as in the return fixtures, ML only had 1 home game against the same teams (Hull). So that would swing the stats in Monks favour, and rightly so. So would you agree, that ignoring those FACTS, would be a bit silly? And that in fact, ML's return is not as bad as some people make out?
you are spot on stumpy well put Bob who cares about the two matches left, we are safe and cant be caught and unless a team really needs to win then it's normal for the players to have one foot on the beach. We will probably turn up anyway but as for risking getting injured now that we are safe then the players will not put themselves at risk of spoiling their holiday. that is the way it has always been in football...
ML's return is not as bad as some people make out? What!!!! his whole time from the cup final to the day he was sacked was a huge disaster..
Instead of selecting your results, why not look at the ratio? Monk has improved the return on a game by game basis. I think ML was a victim of his own ego, imagine if he admitted Vasquez was a pile of crap and instead played Donnelly, we can only assume Donnelly would have scored more but considering the lack of product from the Spaniard it is would be a safe assumption and thus ML's ratio would be higher. When someone has an ego like that which affects results badly then they cannot stay, hence why Laudrup has never settled anywhere and will never get a job at a giant club like Barca, Real or Man Utd.
It's clear you are so desperate to defend Laudrup that your arguments are becoming so very pointless now, Laudrup lost against Cardiff, West Ham, and had some very poor draws against Hull, Stoke, Norwich, Villa, not interested in the home and away issue they are all poor teams in my view!........
You mean a ratio which actually gives very little actual bearing on what your trying to compare, very good that, but then you would ask that, as it looks good for your side of the coin doesn't it. At least my set of games tries to draw a fairer conclusion. Albeit still not fair in regards to exact matches. But its closer than comparing somene that has played mostly bottom half clubs, to a managher who had to play mostly top half clubs. But like I said, don't let FACTS get in your way. So if I take control, and we happen to have a run of games against the bottom 3 clubs, and I won all 3 games, would that make me a better manager than say you, if you were to have taken 7 points from the top 3 clubs, come on, your not that naive Project. Be realistic ffs. Not saying he never had an ego, not saying he didn't have his faults, what I am saying is that some of you are hypocrites. Because what your praising monk for is what ML did, in regards to the teams he played. And I have proven that with opposing fixtures. You have only got the last so many games, which has no actual bearing as ML had to endure playing more games against harder teams. And thats no slight against Monk, as Monk did well to get the draw against Arsenal, gave Liverpool a damn good go. But to ignore that when looking at ML's record with is ****ing idiotic IMO. pointless, thats your response, pointless, basically you havent got a valid reply, so you go down that route, well done Phil As in return to that crap you just posted, West Brom, Palace ring any bells? And you mention Villa, how the **** was that poor, we should have beaten Villa, and on another day we would have beaten Villa, poor my arse. Draw against Stoke, you mean the one we were robbed by the crazy penalty call. Poor, **** me, your really clutching now. Do you even remember the games? Cardiff was poor, West Ham was poor, Hull was poor, Norwich was poor - so 4 games out of 24 this season, ig ****ing whoop, even the big clubs have bad games, even Monk has ffs. Monk had poor games against Palace and West Brom, are you getting your "Monk Out" sign ready yet?
monk came into a fixture list of games that would frighten any manager and he has pulled it off with two games to spare...Now that cant be bad can it.