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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Mick, Apr 25, 2014.

  1. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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  2. ManDingo 20"/20"

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    Your dads a taxi driver is he not?

    And before you start your pish I've read that already and I don't agree with it. The French courts are likely to strike it down again anyway.
     
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  3. stopmeandslapme

    stopmeandslapme Well-Known Member

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    Given that there aren't many sheep in Paris, I wonder what these taxi driver protestors will burn. Berets? Stripey Jumpers?
     
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  4. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Ken Livingston said of Bob Crow; "any working class person in London earning a decent wage is probably one of his members".
     
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  5. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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    He was a taxi driver for about 25 years. Don't think we have any argument then if you don't agree with Unions lobbying government to protect their own racket (or indeed anyone lobbying government to protect a racket) <ok>

    I'm sure the Unionised French taxi-drivers earn a decent wage as well, which sucks if you are a working class Parisian having to pay over the top for their service.
     
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  6. Archers Road

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    If they're Union members themselves it won't be a problem, will it? Because they'll be on a decent wage.
     
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  7. ManDingo 20"/20"

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    That's not what I said was it? So in summation:

    You're a ****. You're a **** that can't tell the difference between a worthwhile argument and a completely stupid argument.
     
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  8. Mick

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    We're trying to achieve the same thing with two very different methods. I reckon the average person is better off if he's not forced into using various cartels in his daily life - you reckon it's better off if everyone is a member of a Union because, although they get screwed by everyone else's Unions (think how many working men could afford highly Unionised British Airway flights), at least they are screwing those other Unionised people themselves.

    I have told a story before about the various Maltese Unions going nuts at the cheap European imports flooding in in 2005 just after they joined the EU, while the Maltese public were rejoicing after years of having a lower standard of living vs the rest of western Europe and being screwed on poorer quality and more expensive goods protected by high government import tariffs (imposed by Union lobbying).
     
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  9. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    I found taxi fares in Paris reasonable.
     
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  10. ManDingo 20"/20"

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    I am curious El Micko Negrone.

    Doesn't the gambling industry regularly lobby governments?
     
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  11. Archers Road

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    It certainly does. Hasn't been going well lately though.
     
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  12. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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    Yes, loads of ****s are at, especially this prick http://www.examiner.com/article/harry-reid-may-be-implicated-online-gaming-corruption-investigation.

    I'm not a cheer leader for the gambling industry, I think if my company can do something better than another gambling company then I should be able to knock them off their market position - but it's tough when other companies have politicians in their pockets and the state protecting them. It's the same with bribery - it's no coincidence that the world's richest countries have the lowest levels of corruption

    (note how easy it is to pick out Africa's fastest growing country, Botswana)

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  13. ManDingo 20"/20"

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    If it wasn't for the gambling industry lobbying government then you most likely wouldn't have done as well, would you?

    I know how corrupt the lobbyist industry is, especially in America. What I don't get is your misplaced hatred of the average mans lobbying when you know fine well that your company uses it to its advantage also.

    To sum things up: Stop being a dick.
     
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    One of the very few things that **** Thatcher got right.

    The Unions abused their powers and actually did untold damage to ordinary workers.
     
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    ER fail.

    Serves me right for not reading the article <laugh>
     
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  16. Mick

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    They are all special interest groups - whether a Union gets the Government to interfere in the market or a company gets the Government to protect it's privileged market position it causes economic inefficiencies, one group wins while another loses not because they offer a good service but because they know (grease) the right people - and the general economy and the average person ends up losing.

    There are certain ways that we can try to fix the extremities of a market economy that don't involve creating cartels, such as breaking up companies that gain too much of a market share, or raising minimum wage levels (slowly, but consistently above inflation to allow the market to adjust).
     
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  17. ManDingo 20"/20"

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    It's a flawed system, I don't disagree.

    What I don't get is you creating a thread to bitch about unions lobbying government when its hardly ****ing exclusive to a few unions. They all play a dirty and flawed game. So stop bitching about the ones you disagree with.
     
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  18. Mick

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    I bitched about American corporations and their lobbying the other day in that Oligarchy thread. I'm pretty consistent when it comes to (small) government being like a good referee, letting the game play (ignoring the interests of Unions or Corporations) and only getting involved when someone does something nasty - go on gis some credit for consistency? <whistle>
     
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  20. A.L.D.O 4.1

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    Multinational Mick doing down the working man again . Knows **** all about unions apart from they screw their members . <laugh>
     
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