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Diaby returns

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Arsenal87, Apr 23, 2014.

  1. I am Gooner

    I am Gooner Member

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    I've got to say after 7 years and 51 weeks after his ankle break and £millions that hes been paid in that time for a handful of performances its time to give up on him in my opinion. Its a shame, but how long should you keep a player who offers nothing but a drain of resources a good 90%+ of the time. Enough is enough and when we are in a situation like this year yet again where an extra fit player who could contribute could have seen us sustain a title challenge, but we have to put up with poor performance after poor performance because we lack any fit creative players in midfield I want us to get rid of deadwood and bring in players who can contribute.
     
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  2. TheBear

    TheBear Well-Known Member

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    I do have to say. I've always been a big fan of Diaby.

    Think the guy could be a World Class midfielder with a decent run of games behind him.

    Hopefully he can stay fit and make an impact at the Club.
     
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  3. TheOXOCube:5pur2

    TheOXOCube:5pur2 Pride of North London

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    Heard on Twitter he's been without pay for his injury duration for the past couple of seasons. Don't see how that is draining resources.
     
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  4. Grizzly

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    The only upside of his horrendous injury record is that very few clubs at the highest level will want to take a chance on him, so a pay as you play contract is likely to be attractive to the player, or a very low basic with enhanced bonuses on performance.
    Also, AW has always spoken highly of him and I've never heard the player say anything but good things about the club and our set up, every chance he'll want to repay the faith that has been entrusted in him...
     
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  5. TheOXOCube:5pur2

    TheOXOCube:5pur2 Pride of North London

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    I'd have him on the bench for the FA Cup Final. Just give him 5 minutes. He's deserves a winner's medal IMO.
     
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  6. Grizzly

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    Clubs usually have insurance policies against long term injuries suffered by players (to cover wage cost), and if his contract only paid wages for a certain period of non acticity then Diaby himself would have had insurance, so with the exception of a now redundant insurance underwriter I don't think anyone would have lost ...
     
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  7. I am Gooner

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    A quick google search shows hes on £2.6m a year and its only since October he has not been paid. And then there is the time and money resources of the medical team. He must have cost Arsenal well over £20m for a handful of appearances.

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=d...l3.3123j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
     
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  8. goonercymraeg

    goonercymraeg Amnesia Forum Moderator

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    He only playthe45 mins for the U21's and he's injured again <doh>
    According to AW "he's got a little groin problem"
     
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  9. goonercymraeg

    goonercymraeg Amnesia Forum Moderator

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    None of us know for certain how much Diaby earns unless someone on here has access to the HMRC database.
    I would think that Diaby's wages would have been paid through an insurance policy whilst he's been injured.
     
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  10. PeterRICK

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    Putting aside how much he earns (as nobody knows for certain) the club, along with any other professional side, will have insurance to cover in these instances. Bet we have obscenely high premiums though considering our history <laugh>

    Supposedly he's been donating his wages to charity this season which is nice of him.
     
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  11. Arsenal87

    Arsenal87 Well-Known Member

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    No f**kkking way, we need the strongest team possible on the pitch, and on the bench, this ain't the time for sentimentality!

    Bench: Shezny, Vermaelen, Wilshere, Rosicky, Flamini, Sanogo, OXO

    So out of those 7, who you going to take out just to give Diaby a nice disney moment?

    You could take Sanogo off, but only for Monreal, to give us more defensive options should it be needed.
     
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  12. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    Despite my support for Diaby, I have to agree with 87 here. This season these are the players that have contributed and should be the ones selected. I don't think the thought does oXo any discredit though.
     
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  13. Han Shot First

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    For anyone else, that would be 4-5 days, with Diaby, probably 4-5 months.
     
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  14. I am Gooner

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    If I had a little groin I would think its a problem as well.

    Its a shame but goodbye Abou.
     
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  15. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    I do accept that it is a "problem". It would be unreasonable for me to do otherwise. We have debated this issue many times in the past. I think I agree with you in thinking that Arsenal are doing something different to other teams to cause this increase in injuries.

    I think where we differ is that I am not seeing anything we are doing "wrong" that might cause the injuries. In other words, it seems to me linked to our style of play, the type of players we sign, how other teams play us, how large a squad of top players we can afford and so on.

    Now having said that I am sure that there have been medical mistakes made, like players being played before they are really ready and so on, but we are all human and players can lie in their eagerness to come back, so it is difficult to pin blame even on the medical staff.

    It is a difficult issue and I am certain it is one that Wenger and the medical staff have spent hours grappling with. I think we tend to trivialize things on here greatly. I know we are all experts in our own minds, I suffer from that as much as anyone, but I think sometimes we are a little superficial with our analysis when these are not easy things to solve and the people involved are top professionals with a lot of experience and knowledge.
     
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  16. The Bonstar Wandit

    The Bonstar Wandit Well-Known Member

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    It is a problem. A lot of it in my humble opinion comes from Wenger not making the players weight train hardly at all due to his preference for small, light players who can turn quickly. Van Persie said he put on 5kg and got faster after he left. No wonder.
     
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  17. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Lack of squad depth in my opinion. We play players until they break and then bring them back before they are ready. Or certainly that's what we've done in the past.
     
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  18. suker_suker

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    Lack of rotation is a major problem. The root cause of which, as Piskie points out, is our lack of squad depth. Wenger doesn't trust many members of our squad fully, so he avoids starting them as much as possible. Giroud has played a ridiculous number of games because we really don't have anyone else you would trust to start in an important match.
     
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  19. I am Gooner

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    Insurance <laugh>

    I can see the meeting with the insurance man now.....

    How much does he earn a year
    How many games has he played in teh last 8 years
    In that case his insurance premium is 110% of his salary please.
     
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  20. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    So many of these threads always come back to things that can be directly attributable to our financial circumstance.

    I know it is human nature to want to blame people, rather than environmental factors (I suppose because it is easier to exact retribution), but I still find it strange that such a high proportion of our fans want to blame our players, managers and administrators, rather than the obvious disparity between the finances available to us and many of our rivals.
     
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