Things are still unfolding so its hard to guess anything including if Monk keeps HIS job . How we finish , transfer requests and such will have a berring . Huw and his clan are the only ones that know if there is a preset plan come summer , gives me an uneasy feeling after what we 've aleady been dragged through. No matter who the manager is next season , hope Huw gives them a little freedom to actually manage.
Ah - so you cannot point to any comments where I have allegedly undermined him and you try and put your own interpretation of my comments to try and justify your position. For example, where have I said that I do not hold the cup in high regard? I didn't. My comments clearly indicate that the PL is a higher / the most important priority for us. Do you agree? As for my "facts" A) we gained 36 pts from ML's last 38 PL games. True or false? B) we gained 24pts from ML's 24 PL games in charge this season. True or false? Yes, under ML, 2012/2013 was a great season - period. However, since Wembley, things were not so great - Valencia and MU apart (both cups by the way, which may point where ML's priorities lay) - and the points rate in the PL was trending down. You appear to be focussing solely on his "achievements" and not prepared to take a more balanced view.
Not experienced enough to take the job at this point I feel. The future? who knows, head coach? possibly. Shame about the "he said she said" quotes though, getting like a forum in a girls school with all the 'bitching' going on. I appreciate that most of the frustration is born from some unfortunates being unable to get over the loss of their lovely Laudrup but, that was a loooong time ago. Its time now for you all to drop your barbies and move, there is life after laudrup. I doubt Monk will be our manager next year and rightly so. He is not good enough at the required. He has no experience at this level, therefor the squad has noting to look up to, they don't know if they can rely on him or not. He would be under the microscope and tiny little errors will appear as huge mistakes inevitably leading to a bleed of confidence the squad will have in him. Low confidence equates to poor play which leads to low confidence etc etc. The board must employ experience and hopefully, this time, someone we all can depend on and trust. No more dodgy danes please.
Taff you wrongly point to your 'facts', ignoring the point that ML being a true European manager targets winnable games and is willing to concede less winnable games, He concentrated resources and tactics on important games which is what managing is about. Concentrating on naked stats does not take any of this into account. There are liars, damned liars and statisticians. You seem to take joy in your stats.
No problem aswan, glad you enjoyed!....................... I hope though that this thread will not descend into a Laudrup v Monk Bitch feast lads?
You ignore the fact that ML recognised - as he did with Getafe - that he couldn't win the league with a club like ours. Therefore, he targeted the cups - that was his "personal" priority, so he could raise his stock in the hope of attracting interest from a bigger club. As for targeting winnable games - how did we beat, for example, Arsenal away in the PL in December 2012? I prefer to deal in facts - you appear to deal in only those facts that suit your point of view. Perhaps you should take off your rose tinted glasses and wake up and smell the coffee. Anyway, it appears that we both have our opinions which we are sticking to so no point in continuing and running the risk of boring others ad nauseum - thanks for the debate!
I don't see Monk getting the managers position this summer, I have only ever seen his appointment as a move to rescue our PL status of which he must be thanked for achieving, he did rally the troops so to speak, and that is why he was selected by our board in the first place, job well done in my view, and we will see the real business next month, interesting times ahead, and many lessons learn't from this season!...............
I dont get this rubbish that monk wont get the job..Why not? He like you can see in all the media is doing a fantastic job for someone who was one minute a player training with the squad knowing he was not going to play to the next minute thrust into a job to save and put the club back on course and reverse all changes ML implicated at the club. It is not all about results, It was much worst than that that the club was in turmoil and the players were so pissed off with the way things were that there was a danger of players mass putting in transfer requests if things did not change. Credit to jenkins he kept quiet for nearly a year and let ML do it his way but it got too much and jinx tried to speak to ML to sort things out but he would not listen and the final straw was that he refused to attend a board meeting on the sunday after the west ham fiasco, Instead he went on holiday and told the players to take a 4 day break. Now come on if you told your boss at work that you are not going to comply to the company rules and did your own thing then you would have been shown the door. It was jinx who in the end had seen enough and the players complaints were re enforced and ML had to go and rightly so. Jinx bent over backwards to help ML and he spat in his face so to speak and no club will tolerate that. Forget about the poor form we were in since our cup final and focus on the way he run the club and you will come to understand that the turmoil run deep and the main cause of our poor form. you dont become a bad side over night unless the players were unhappy and they were. Now as for monk, Lets start giving him some credit like his fellow peers and his players and look closely at what he has achieved, the football is better the players are happy and the fans have been fantastic home and away even when we lost, Monk had some of the toughest games of the season to sort out and if you bother to read match reports then we have played some good football and are looking like a side who is enjoying their football again, So why all this anti monk rubbish because if you knew how much that man has worked behind the scenes putting things right then you would not be so critical of him and be like the majority of us in applauding his efforts and deserve a chance of being the new manager, He has earned the chance to give it a go and he knows fully well if he dont do well in the first ten games then his job will be someone elses, So don't begrudge him his chance and wish the guy well as he is a legend at the club just like martinez was when he had his chance.......I will be the first to call for his sacking if he don't do well but i wont condemn him until he has at least had a go from the start and not how he found himself in this season....give the guy a break he deserves his chance...
I'm all for trusting the board one more time and giving monk a chance, though where the cut off point is if he doesn't cut it is uncertain at the moment. He's no Martineze but its under different circumstances for him I agree. My main concern beyond results with him is the pulling power he has in recruiting new players and not sure how good the scouts and back room staff are in running things sometimes ie- contracts, tickets, stock etc. He may make a good no 2 or work under a well known director of football here if he doesn't get the breaks soon enough ?
We will hand Monk the job at our peril, even for a "trial" period for the first 10 games. If we do badly we'll be playing catch-up from the off and the number of managers genuinely interested in coming to the club will rapidly diminish. Michael Laudrup was spot on (much to Jenkins's dismay) that you have to spend reasonable sums just to stand still in this league. A savvy manager will want to come in, choose/buy his own players and spend a good preseason with them and the squad, in order to assess his options and tactics for the campaign ahead. Make do and mend with another coach's flops, if that's how it transpires, will NOT be an attractive proposition for any new manager with the gravitas we require. Of course, IF Monk is handed the job, he might do well and I would want him to for the sake of our club. But my honest opinion is that he doesn't have what it takes (not going to state all the reasons again) at this point in time. Perhaps he will in the future, who knows? I just feel that is too big a gamble to risk handing him the job here and now. And let's get one thing straight, most successful managers at Premier League level gain experience and learn their trade PROPERLY before taking a job in one of the most difficult leagues in the world. What qualifies Monk to be so arrogant and misguided that he thinks he can be the exception to this?
I remain slightly surprised that there is not more support on this forum for Garry Monk to continue as manager. I can only come to one of two conclusions: 1) In some romantic kind of way I would like him to succeed and therefore my heart is ruling my head or 2) For some reason which I can't work out, this forum doesn't proportionately represent the Swansea fan-base as a whole. I think I shall remain silent on this topic from now on, and watch and wait as events unfold over the summer....
