This thread was titled 'Imaginary places' Now you want to move the goalposts (again). So far we've had:- - flat denial when presented with facts - evasiveness when questioned - general refusal to debate the topic in a meaningful way - excessive emoticon use (always a giveaway for a flustered poster) - kneejerk argumentativeness when presented with facts by various posters. - mind-numbingly repetitive restating of your view. This thread doesn't reflect well on your reasoning abilities.
Not really. You seem to think repeating discredited ****e and saying "it does exist" like Violet Elizabeth Bott,somehow makes it so, yet the few supporters admit they've no idea where the place is. It could be anything from an inch to 100 miles wide, but it's there because God or santa or was it Robin Hood, told someone. Cracking argument. You've repeatedly dodged what we both know is the real issue. Your fear of being compared to Leeds. You've also dodged your gross hypocrisy over the name change. No doubt you'll continue with the foot stomp and claim for the masses. I wondered when you'd resort to the emoticons. You'e Soo predictable.
i conceded that point pages ago, having never attempted to make it. pay attention. i said earlier that not everyone knows all your precise geographic names for all areas in all places. if someone was telling me about their holiday in france, i'd have sod all idea where hyeres is but i might know where the cote d'azur is. most people couldn't tell you which countries border bulgaria. i can't. but i might be on a touring holiday, starting at cleethorpes and working my way via goole to spurn. people don't always need to be precise. are you one of those people who discusses the merits of taking the a437 and then the b619 in order to avoid the rochdale gyratory system and all that rivetting stuff?
I think the "God says" argument was probably better than that, which is effectively "it exists in your mind" The other places you talk of have boundaries. You three can't agree if it's got boundaries at all, but seem to claim they'd be somewhere between zero and 100 miles wide/long and next to/nowhere near the Estuary and would need describing by reference to existing places. I think you've a lot more work to do before you go to market with this plan of yours. It bombed when they tried similar before and they could draw lines around it.
Subject firmly stuck to by me. I leave the appeals to the gallery, ad hominims and evasions to you and your fellow strugglers.
Is it not possible for the Humber to be both a river and an estuary? All the maps I have found and possess call it the River Humber; I would imagine these (mainly) have their origins at the Ordnance Survey, so are they incorrect? If it is not feasible to call it River Humber, rather than just The Humber, when did this become embodied in something other than Wiki - what is the authority for labelling it? I ask because I do not have the answer, but some posters, on this thread, must have a qualified source of reference to support their very dogmatic opinions. I found a fairly recent reference piece in Britannia Encyclopaedia (on-line) that certainly explained that the Humber is an estuary but continued to call it a river as well. The Humberside argument is a sack of ****e; call it what you will, informally. Informally referring to a loose area as Humberside seems to be all the argument is about. Just an opportunity for more pedantry, methinks. I do find it interesting in a light reading sort of a way that the week we restart our relationship with Umbro, a company whose name is derived from 'Humphreys Brothers Clothing', there is a discussion about the Humber whose etymology includes: Just a daft coincidental link.
To add to the fun, some reckon "Humber" is an old word for River from when what became the River Hull flowed directly into the Rhine, in the days before it became the North Sea and the Estuary was created. So it would be the River River Estuary. Some seas are lakes, some lakes are seas and there's no real family of animals called "fish" which using proper rules of English can still be pronounced the same if spelled GHOTI.
Good morning to all my fellow East yorkshireans (is that a word). I wish you a lovely sunny profitable day. To all the humberside lot, I wish you good luck in your quest to find the Humberside signs. In all seriousness, let us beg to differ and get on with supporting our local club Hull City. The same Hull City that is situated in Hull, East Yorkshire.
You've missed off the Hornseamersidenorthseasiders. I think at this time of year, a few or on an Easter break, perhaps around Sherwoodside, or maybe Nessside, or Windermereside. Triv alert there's actually only one Lake in the lake district. <oK>
I am a stones throw away from the River Hull. Does that mean I live in Hullside? This is really opening a can of worms. Don't worry though, we can get the worms from the Humber Estuary. This is the same estuary that has Lincolnshire on one side and East Yorkshire on the other side.
If it's any help, nobody around here (Leicestershire) refers to Humberside, everyone just sees Hull as Yorkshire, Grimsby and ****horpe as Lincolnshire... I've never heard anyone say Humberside away from this site or the media.
Rutland definitely exists, it's where The Rutles come from... [video=youtube;Fu3T_2GzXSo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu3T_2GzXSo[/video]