Who says they havent? Again though, the manager needs to motivate them. Its part of his job. The best managers make winners.
Now we are getting to the main problem, with luck the players we/Moyes have been linked with will solve this, a left back, 2 centre mids (1 defensive and 1 attacking) and maybe a left winger.
Managers and coaches can only instill so much, sure they can give the tactics and rousing speaches but the pride has to come from the players.
Ain't arguing about that mate, but little things like Moyes using Everton players as examples during team talks/tactics appear to have offended some of the "superstars", Moyes is guilty of being naive, not being confident in front of the cameras, bringing his own backroom staff in, and trusting players that think they're better than him, which he has never faced before. As I've said before, if SAF decided he was the man he should have given him one season at least as number two under his guidance, that would have been enough to continue on an even keel and Moyes would have had more scope to have a say in players targeted and signed before SAF retired. The current situation at OT is a culmination of lots of things and not just Moyes tbf.
Motivation only helps when a team needs convincing they can beat the opposition or against lesser teams that the 3 points are vital to the season. motivational speaches will not change a players attitude if he really can`t be arsed.
Both these highlighted parts are linked, i think Phelan has been **** on twice, once by Fergie and once by Moyes. If Fergie felt Moyes was the right man he should have had him as number two for a season or at least insisted (not recommended or asked) that Phelan be kept as number two for at least a season to see if it worked out.
Having good players means diddly **** if they don't believe in the manager. Motivation isn't the right word IMO. Respect or authority would be two better choices, maybe even trust.
Can't really understand why Fergie was allowed to choose his successor but not the guarantees that he could dictate the terms by which his "empire" would continue, it looks to us outsiders like Fergie wasn't arsed about his good work continuing after he left because not enough seems to be done in preparation, if he left spontaneously it should have been highlighted but Moyes appears to have been approached before SAF retired?
Its not to say Moyes couldn't earn both, Rodgers and Martinez have both done it. However, it is harder after a bad start that leaves the players questioning them as has been reported this season; aka Giggs. I actually said Moyes would be good for you and that you would still get top four at the start of the season. I still believe he is a good manager but more in the Roy Hodgson ilk, he just doesn't fit Man Utd, nor is he a top club manager. I hope the Glazers back him and let him throw money at the problem as I don't think he will ever be 100% accepted at Old Trafford because of the style of football he brings.
I kind of understand the quick announcement of Fergie`s retirement, the last time he did it at the start of a season the team fell apart even though he was still in charge. I think the idea was to get them in a good position then give them a full pre-season to get used to the idea they had a new manager.
Maybe Fergie objected to having that involvement having seen what happened with Busby and Shanks etc. One situation worked, the other didn't. Being on the board undermines that stance though.
I still think he can do the job but at present has too many players at the club who have achieved than him.
I get your point Diego but when you consider what he built and how long it took to build it seems iffy that the work was allowed to stop, Moyes bringing in his own men shouldn't have been sanctioned, and when SAF is filmed at most games its hypocritical after him saying he wouldn't make the mistakes of Busby, Moyes reckons him and Fergie talk every day?
His shadow looms large at every game and like I said Moyes said he's in daily contact with SAF, if that's the case he's either not listening or SAF's ideas and advice is useless, its a strange situation.
There a conundrum; change it too quickly and its like starting from square one, don't change it quickly enough and he won't get chance to finish the project.
Them talking every day shouldn't be a problem so long as the players don't see it happen or see Fergie too often. He certainly shouldn't be anywhere near the training ground. Yep, but despite the players and Moyes knowing he is there, do they really notice on match day? Why should it effect things? Don't get me wrong, I think it does but couldn't tell you why.
Fergie being at the games should make no difference at all, many ex-players and managers go to every game because they are also supporters. If fergie was having any influence on the team then surely it would be to tell them to pull their finger out and play for his chosen replacement like he knows they can.
If it made any difference at all it would only be possitive, they would be **** scared of letting Fergie down.
