HBA in crunch talks (again)

When I read the list if club concerns I thought that, apart from the losing weight bit you could levy those at Pardew...

A Keegan or Redknapp type of manager would get the best out of Hatem... it's a shame that Pardew has the people skills of a tasmanian devil.


http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hatem-ben-arfa-crunch-talks-6994425

Hatem Ben Arfa is drinking in the Last Chance Saloon with Newcastle United.

The French playmaker is understood to have held heart-to-heart talks with Alan Pardew and the United boss must decide whether to play him in the last four games of the season.

Ben Arfa has been involved in two dressing-room bust-ups with Pardew in the last two games, against Manchester United and Stoke City.

The Magpies’ campaign is now reaching a frustrating conclusion with Pardew and Ben Arfa as the central two figures of a plot which has resulted in the pressure being cranked up on the Toon boss.

However, the Chronicle understands United chiefs have been dismayed by Ben Arfa this season at times.

A series of problems have put Ben Arfa’s future under severe doubt on Tyneside with United concerned that the player is:

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Carrying too much weight

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Lacking professional discipline

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Failing to take simple tactics on board

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Causing some disruption behind the scenes

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Not setting the right example to younger professionals


Newcastle have always tried to be more flexible with Ben Arfa and allowed him trips back to Tunisia to see family as well as being allowed to recover from injury at Clairefontaine in France.

However, this season it appears they feel their flexibility has not always been repaid.

Ben Arfa’s issues at United are understood to have started before the home game with Hull City, when he failed to put in a tackle on George Boyd to allow Sone Aluko to net the winner.

The French playmaker’s lax attitude at Everton, when the Magpies were 3-0 down at the break, also resulted in him being hooked.

Games against Tottenham (0-4) and Man United (0-4) have also resulted in the player exchanging words with the club’s management.

The latest dressing room rant started because senior players expressed concern Ben Arfa walked back into first-team contention too quickly after letting rip after the Man United game.

However, sources close to Ben Arfa say he is committed to the cause and say: “Hatem knows the fans want to see him in the team. He has not had the chances this season.”

It is also believed Ben Arfa wanted to sign a new contract earlier in the season with Newcastle unable to come to any agreement.

Pardew will have to thrash things out with his senior players in the build-up to the Swansea City game on Saturday.

Ben Arfa has been told that if he is to be picked he must start showing signs of the player who once wooed the St James’ Park with great indvidual goals against Bolton and Blackburn and must brush up on his team play.

He has kept silent amid talk of the dressing-room inquest at the Britannia Stadium.

A report in France Football said Pardew told Ben Arfa: “I ​​count on you until the end of the season. Next year, if you are still there, you will play if you deserve it.”

Yet Ben Arfa could well quit if Pardew stays next season.

 

Sorry, but it appears those crunch talks have not gone a good way. Ben Arfa has just pissed off to France this morning, my mate on security at Newcastle airport has just informed me

I doubt we'll see him play for us again now.

 

Woohoo, he won't be missed.

Only one man to blame for him being turd, and for once it ain't Pardew. Those bullet points are all bang on the money.

 

To be fair, I'd not have been too upset if the entire first team had pissed off with him. I'd rather watch the youth lads have a go on Saturday

 

I actually was very impressed with Pardew's handling of HBA the first time around. Made him hungry, fed him on scraps and made him play as part of a team. Shame it didn't last.

I note there doesn't seem to be a queue of clubs forming to take him off our hands

 

Except for Shola though, BRS needs Shola

 

Yeah, we don't want to be cruel.

Also, as long as we replace these non performing players with ones who actually do the job... Oh dear.

 

Exactly, there's not much chance of anything improving at the moment. One foot in Limbo and another foot in hell.

 

You see that is the puzzling thing - apparently first teamers are pissed off with Ben Arfa being allowed back into the side after the alledged bust up with Pardew but have no such complaints about a useless, two-legged donkey up front who is, quite simply, the worse player ever to disgrace the Premier League. Its quite baffling, it really is.

 

A bit like Lyon did? Or Marseille? He has had the same issues now at three different clubs with 5 different managers. I think HBA has no further to look than the mirror to see where things are going wrong.

 

... or Pardew's tactics board...

 

Ah bless: it must be lovely to know, regardless of what life throws at you, you have a ready made response.

 

The trouble with these kind of stories just now, is that I couldn't care less if the entire squad fecked off!

Yes, blame ultimately must sit with the board and management, but there is no way the players are putting in nearly enough physical effort.

They can all go

 

No no no, you are not playing the game. Its no good bringing contradictory evidence to the table. HBA is god and its everyone elses fault. Especially Pardews. He'd be great under anyone but Pards, honest. He'd get slim, try, the whole shebang. If it wasn't for Pards he'd be professional. Pards has depressed the poor fellow and this has led to comfort eating. A lot of comfort eating. Pards tells him to run round with ball on his own, never passing. He tells him to lose the ball in really dangerous areas, cost us goals, tells him not to chase back.

HBA actually has the ability to be like another Messi. Pards won't let him.

 

I thought it was "ben arfa in crunchie talks again".

tomorrows friday and he needs to reduce the crunchie intake.

 

HBA in, Pards out!

 

I always have a different thing to say on Shola - his ****ness allows me a whole of Bible's worth of insults - all of them I may say correct and accurate. The only problem I think is sometimes I'm just not harsh enough on the repugnant parasite.

 

This is our Shola you're talking about isn't it?

 

I cant help but feel sorry for poor HBA.

One day, you get compared to Lionel Messi, The Ferrari of Footballers.
You believe it, it gets in your head that you can win the Ballon d'or. so you go to bed happy.

Waking up the next day, you feel a bit rusty, and it turns out your not a Ferrari after all, but a 30 year old East German 'Lada' without a steering wheel, engine and gearbox.
No wonder he feels the way he does, a bit like an empty shell.
Maybe he just needs a new mechanic to put him right, but, I doubt that'll fix his problems.

 

Can't imagine Pardew inspiring/motivating anyone tbh.