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Manchester United offering Toni Kroos £260,000 a week to join

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Matth_2014, Apr 15, 2014.

  1. Drogs

    Drogs Well-Known Member

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    <laugh><laugh><laugh>

    Of course.

    Disconnect your internet and don't return you horrendous individual.
     
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  2. Chief

    Chief Northern Simpleton
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    Calm down will you.

    Not a request either.
     
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  3. Chief

    Chief Northern Simpleton
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    You do realise Manchester isn't in the Yorkshire Dales?

    I'd have thought someone as global as you would know a bit of geography. Or at least your soaps.
     
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  4. Matth_2014

    Matth_2014 Well-Known Member

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    Guardiola on Toni Kroos: &#8220;I want Toni to stay. He is a superb player and can decide for himself. We want him to stay."
     
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  5. Matth_2014

    Matth_2014 Well-Known Member

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    me a spaz ? piss off.
     
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  6. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    He called you a spa's. As in a place to relax.
     
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    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    No I didn't, thanks for the free geography lesson Chief, was just taking the piss lad. I also don't watch Emerdale but I am subjected to the audio of the crap when she watches it.
     
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  8. Caesar

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    What's wrong with London? :p
     
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  9. CFC: Champs £launderx17

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    He's played the most amount of games for Bayern including Neuer.

    Where would you play him?

    Jose gets the best out of players, eg Ronaldo.

    Kroos could potentially be a 15-20 goal a season AM. It is just Pep does not let him shoot.

    You've just spent £200m on wages/transfers on AMs/no 10s.... Fellaini, Roon, Mata.

    Do you want him to play deeper CM? He can play there.
    Seems Moyes is just trying to buy quality without building a team. Would you want Kroos playing behind Mata, Rooney, Kagawa and RVP?
    Bit lightweight

    Personally I would like him at Chelsea in the no 10 role, Sneijder style. He is better than Oscar at the moment. And also playing deep alongside Matic.

    Just about best midfielder going but another panic offer?
     
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  10. Chief

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    1, at centre midfield. Which is his position and where we need players. Stupid question.

    2, it's a panic to go after one of the best CM's in Europe?

    You really are very stupid.

    <ok>
     
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  11. King Shergar

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    Jose was never responsible for getting the best out of Ronaldo. Ronaldo was a great player before Jose came, and is still a great player now Jose has left. Ronaldo was one of the Madrid players who was desperate to see the back of Mourinho, as Jose kept criticising him for not running back and tackling. Only an anti football manager like Mourinho would try to shackle down one of the best attacking players of all time with defensive responsibilities, though it didn't work with Ronaldo ignoring him and playing his normal game. As he knew even Mourinho wouldn't have the balls to drop him, as he'd be sacked on the spot. Ronaldo also hated the way Mourinho tried to bully some of his team mates like Casillas and Ramos, and took there sides over the manger.

    I think we all know who the manager was that had the most influence on getting the best out of Ronaldo, and it certainly wasn't Mourinho. Fergie was the the man who made Ronaldo the player he is today, and Ronaldo himself would tell you that :biggrin:
     
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    I reckon if you put matth up front for Madrid over a season he'd end up with a few goals.

    As for the bit in bold.

    Ronaldo made Ronaldo the player he is today. Others can only offer advice and instruction, the rest is entirely up to you and your determination and discipline, Ronaldo is supposed to be extremely focused and professional because of his desire to be the best. Same can't be said of smoking fat Rooney, how come Fergie didn't do for Rooney what he supposedly done for Ronaldo? Cos it's all on you if you want to be the best
     
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  13. King Shergar

    King Shergar Well-Known Member

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    Fergie was the man who kept faith with Ronaldo when he initially struggled after just 9 goals in his first 2 seasons. SAF was the man still giving him game time to improve his skills, where as other managers would have only thought of the short term implications and would have dropped him.

    It is true that some players aren't as easy to mange like Wayne Rooney, but Fergie has still got a top career out of him. Ronaldo may have been easier to coach, but that was more down to the bond that SAF had formed with him, by Fergie showing faith in him, a young Ronaldo looked at SAF as a father figure, which he has said on numerous occasions. This meant that Ronaldo would take on board any advice that Fergie gave him, and do anything he asked. Look how professional and hard working SAF was throughout his career, you really believe that professionalism and drive to improve never rubbed off on Ronaldo?

    SAF probably never had the same bond with Rooney, as Rooney wasn't as good as Ronaldo, so he didn't show the same level of faith in him.

    Obviously players have to have the talent, but it is up to the manager to spot that talent, and support that player even when there going through a bad spell. Fergie did that with Ronaldo and that's why we where able to see the best of that talent :biggrin:
     
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    keeping faith? the lad was tipped to be a star before united signed him.

    Ronaldo worked hard and developed his skills with the help of coaches, of which Fergie is NOT.


    Wake up coaching staff had more input into his development than Fergie.
     
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    You need a Matic or Schweinstiger to play alongside Kroos in CM.

    Heynckes often played Martinez and Schweini with Kroos the most advanced of the three.
    Kroos also played AM at Leverkeusen, and also at Bayern when Muller was injured.
    He even played wide forward when Robben was injured.

    There seems to be no team building at Old T going on.

    If you want to play Kroos as a Pirlo type you need a Gattuso.

    Xavi has Busquets.

    Who is going to play alongside Kroos? Fellaini.
    With three of Janujaz Mata Kagawa Rooney behind RVP, you will struggle to park the bus in big games

    You need a Matic type first and foremost.
    Then get your Krooses. It is called team building.

    Let us have Kroos, he will be perfect alongside Matic, rotating with Ramires when we need to park the bus, playing no 10 too rotating with Oscar
     
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  16. King Shergar

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    Carvalho the lad were getting from Portugal is a big powerful ball winner, who plays in the holding role. Him and Kroos can play alongside each other in midfield, with Kroos getting abit more freedom to get forward :biggrin:
     
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    No. You are not allowed Kroos. He best Midfielder in Central Europe is only allowed to come to Chelsea on a free in 2015. <whistle>
     
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  18. Chief

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    As above, obviously.

    As has been pointed out countless times we have a surplus of the mythical 'number 10' so Kroos would quite clearly be a central midfielder with Carvalho alongside him.

    No, Fellaini would not be alongside him, or indeed any closer to the pitch than the subs bench if all goes well. This applies to Carrick also, who has been a fantastic servant but will be 33 next term.

    I can see a fairly clear team building plan taking place if our targets are to be believed as all our weak positions are being addressed. We'll need a centre half to replace the outgoing two but other than that I'm more than happy with our targets.
     
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  19. UnitedinRed

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    Ask ronaldo what he thinks.

    Heres a hint....Sir Alex Ferguson
     
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  20. Treble

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    Tipped to be a star? Is that why Liverpool turned him down at a fraction of the price United eventually paid for him??? He was certainly a potential talent, but there are plenty of those all the time, most of who don't ever reach the level they were tipped to be. You're right that much of Ronaldo's ability is down to Ronaldo. But the rest is clearly an irrational opinion based on a dislike of Fergie. Credit where it's due - ofcourse Fergie helped him to become the player he is - Ronaldo himself has said so. The idea that Fergie didn't coach him is insane tbh. Anyone who's ever seen Fergie taking training knows Fergie coaches all players including tactical play from individuals to the team. To say Fergie didn't develop that side of his game is laughable.
     
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