Probably the best description - similar to the likes of Mo Johnston without whom we'd have been stuffed. I simply couldn't elevate him to the status of Holton, Scullion, Welbourne and the bulk of the 82/83 team, especially those who started in the 4th division & drove us all the way to the top. I honestly cant think of one first choice player in that team who doesn't deserve the status - something I cant say for our two Premiership squads.
Very similar to Johnston, BB. I will always think very highly of DG, but he's not a Legend. I do like the WatfordLegends site and their description of anybody who has pulled on a gold jersey and crossed the chalk line onto the pitch, as a legend. I like it a lot. However, I return to the usual suspects. Most recent would be Smudger and Lloydihno.
BB, I would agree about the majority of the 82/83 season team . Who was the latest who got legend status? for me Robbo, Mooney and Smith ....
I like the way DG left watford the most, with dignity, he made it clear to the fans he wanted to play in the prem, told is strait he wouldnt go to another champ club, thanked watford. Malky cant say he did any of those
Very good for the club for two seasons, but I suggest that there are 2 main attributes for being a legend at any club. 1. Length of service i.e. appearances 2. Attitude towards club & fans over that time Ability, skill, number of goals etc. have nothing to do with it. Over the last 50 years I would put Danny (amongst others) in the same category as: Dennis Uphill Charlie Livesey George Harris Ron Saunders Dennis Bond Tony Currie Barry Endean Keith Mercer Roger Joslyn George Reilly Ronnie Rosenthal Allan Smart Nick Wright Marlon King these all flashed across the Vicarage Road stage, burning brightly then abruptly moved on for various reasons. Danny joins the above illustrious (or not) company. Legends include: Cliff Holton Duncan Welbourne John Williams Walter Lees Stewart Scullion Keith Eddy Andy Rankin Kenny Jackett Nigel Callaghan Luther Blissett Ross Jenkins John Barnes Steve Sims Steve Terry Tony Coton Steve Sherwood John McLelland Tommy Mooney Tommy Smith Nigel Gibbs Gary Porter Heidar Helguson Amazingly enough, I believe that, of the above legends, it was Holton who actually spent the least amount of time at the club, just over 3 seasons, the first time around, then another not so successful half a season towards the end of his career - but what a first three seasons!
Put me the 'outstanding player and servant of the club, not sure if he's a legend' category. I don't think he was with us long enough to qualify. One indicator will be the reaction he gets the first time he ever comes back to play at the Vic. I suspect it will be huge. Remember when Robbo threw his WBA shirt into the Rookery a few years ago. Or the reception Luther got when he came on the pitch at Wembley in '84... those are legends.
I agree with you vic rijrode, although I do think it is harsh that Ashley young didnt get on either of the 2 lists!!!
I did state that the legends included these players and the lists were not exhaustive, just indicative of who should be considered a legend. Feel free to add players. I would certainly agree that Robbo, Wilf & Ian were also legends and that Ashley probably should be in the Danny Graham list. The size of the transfer fee received for a player should not blind us to the need for a 'legend' to spend some time at the club (and not just in the Juniors/Reserves!). After all, both Dennis Bond and Tony Currie commanded significant fees when they were sold (£30K & 27K respectively), yet cannot really be described as Legends. Tommy Mooney was virtually sacked at the end of his time at the Vic, yet is a Legend.........
Well said, he was a very nice bloke. But my legends didn't drive top of the range Range Rovers with price tags of 4 times the annual salary of lesser mortals, they drove Ford Capri's!!!! Even Harry Carpenter drove a Ford Capri. Danny Graham has caught the "premier League bug" in my view. Yes he is hard working, but who, honestly thinks he is going to make it at the top level?
I don't think he was here long enough to be classed as a 'legend'. Just someone who had 1 very good season with us and moved on when he stock was high. I'm not sure he will succeed in the Prem, it will be tough to find goals in a team that I think will struggle to create chances. He may very well find himself in the Championship. I don't begrudge him his chance - he may have had a poor season for us next season, got an injury first game etc, plus obviously the board (whoever it was going to be) was always going to sell our prized asset - it's just a shame it's the state we're in... we just seem a feeder club to not nly premiership teams, but some Championship!
The generally feeling is that he was good, but not a legend. I refute this, and would say he was brilliant for us, but not a legend. He gave absolutely everything when he put on that yellow shirt, covering every blade of grass in a match. He had a bit of everything in terms of pace and aerial ability, which even though may not make him ideal when he moves to the premier league, made him a vital cog in the side that exceeded all expectations by surviving relegation in what a turbulent period. Now we move into a new era, out go Mackay and Graham and in come Dyche and Sordell Also, I'm surprised Lloyd Doyley has not been mentioned in the category of legend. For the last 10 years he has played 20+ games in only one season, through what would be now 6 managers including Dyche, and he has improved substantially since he first appeared for the club.
i agree with that SLB...i maybe he has to leave before he can be called 'Legend'...round where i sit, he already has the accolade.
I agree that Doyley is a legend - anyone who comes up through the junior/reserve ranks, then stays with one club for the length of time he has, in these modern times, deserves that status. He joins at the Duncan Welbourne, John Williams level of 'Legend'. Underrated technically, but with a huge heart and passion for the club! I reiterate that playing ability does not play a great part in who is a legend - otherwise David Connolly, Mo Johnston even Mike Williamson & Malky would be legends! Length of club service, plus the manner of their leaving the club all matter far more...... Amongst others I suggest, I hope that Dyche becomes a legend.
Lloyd had his own legend thread a while back I think with most people agreeing he is a legend. (Me not included )
