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pool play top football but acting is dire

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  1. pabird

    pabird Active Member

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    Impossible not to admire pools style and all round football talented squad

    Their acting skills are are pathetic and referees really must start handing out cards
     
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  2. deedub93

    deedub93 Well-Known Member

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    100% agreed, Suarez should have been off. Clattenburg bottled it. Failed to do his job properly.
     
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  3. Spudulike

    Spudulike Well-Known Member

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    Could you see Clattenburg sending any Liverpool player off at Anfield considering the sensitive nature of this weekend's date? Chances.... zero!
     
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  4. SpursDisciple

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    He did? Henderson.
     
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  5. Spudulike

    Spudulike Well-Known Member

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    FAIL! <doh>
     
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  6. redwhiteandermblue

    redwhiteandermblue Well-Known Member

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    Both teams play excellent football, and it was a fun game to watch, but Clattenburg really outdid himself today, which is saying something. Here's my tally:

    Suarez' blatant dive deserved a second yellow. Clattenburg didn't award it because in this case enforcing the rules would probably have affected the outcome, which of course is an excellent reason not to enforce the rules.

    Was it Henderson who managed, amazingly, to deserve a pen for two different things simultaneously: grabbing a shirt with one hand while punching the ball away with the other?

    Man City deserved two other pens as well, though TBF both were hard to see clearly in real time.

    It was so clear to everyone that Clattenburg wasn't going to award a pen for anything Pool did that their box became
    WrestleMania.

    He didn't come close to adding on the time it took for the red card or the other blatant time wasting Liverpool did in extra time. That red card was really sneaky. It gave a hint of fairness to the job he did, while actually benefitting Pool (the time wasted helped them more than being without a player for a minute hurt them).
     
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  7. vimhawk

    vimhawk Well-Known Member

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    Good summary. I'm glad Pool won because City and their "new money" don't deserve the title, but Pool have benefited from generous refereeing in quite a few matches (except against Chelski and I think in the City away match).
     
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  8. No Kane No Gain

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    Liverpool have run at a significant loss in recent years too.

    As for the play acting, it's really bad isn't it? Milner did something similar too and really it's wide spread throughout the league, along with time wasting which goes totally unpunished also. I can't say I blame players anymore, I just think it's sad that this is the way we allow the game to be played now. I prefer the English game to be a bit more rough and tumble, especially in the box, some of the stuff that everyone seems to agree is a foul these days is really pathetic. It's a weird contrast we have now where anything goes for set pieces, shirts can be pulled, you can push and block the 'keeper whilst the slightest contact with a player in open play can result in a penalty. The refs can basically pick and chose what they give so wide is the scope for giving and not giving a penalty these days. Clattenburg is an apalling ref but there are so many others just as bad that it's no real wonder he still gets to referee top flight.

    The game was excellent entertainment though, settled with a bit of fortune as it so often is but a great game nonetheless.
     
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  9. redwhiteandermblue

    redwhiteandermblue Well-Known Member

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    This is the worst of it. The only rational explanation for not trying to enforce rules consistently is a desire to allow referees to determine the outcome of games as they please, rather than letting the players on the field determine the result.
     
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  10. Sidney Fiddler

    Sidney Fiddler Well-Known Member

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    Liverpool have been a shining light and unbelievably they are competing with the Viagra clubs.
    They deserve the glory , others can only look with admiration .
    A real club with heart and hunger .
    They should be the benchmark for the never win anything brigade such as ourselves.
    If we had Suarez he would have been sold yonks ago.
    Fair play to them .
     
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  11. Boss

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    I listen to the radio 1 talk shows often due to travelling for work, and this season has shown how playing attacking football and being "the peoples choice" to win the title means if you dare to point out other aspects you get called bitter or quickly cut off! Time and time again I hear callers receive the brush off or quickly moved on if they dare to point out how Suarez still dives, he still winds up opponents, he still grabs and acts like an annoying little rat faced dirty player......but because he is a fantastic footballer then it doesn't matter?

    You basically have to say (before you state a negative) that Liverpool play fantastic football, we're sorry about what happened at hillsborough, suarez is a great footballer and rodgers is a great man manager..............Only then can you start to make any sort of negative point, and even then you can't be too aggressive or honest as otherwise ""you're not being fair""!
     
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  12. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Why did you feel the need to mention something that has no relevance to our football this season?

    You're entitled as anyone else to your views on that particular subject but bringing it into a point about slagging Suarez off for diving etc?, can't personally see the connection tbh.
     
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  13. Boss

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    It was to point how how sensitive it can be to criticise Liverpool, nothing more, and yes I do have respect for Liverpools football this year (as you know)...but everyone should be entitled to offer their opinion without having to be balanced as just because you're playing fantastic football, it doesn't mean everyone can't see that Suarez is still a dirty player or there isn't alot of play acting going on.
     
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  14. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Boss I can see where your coming from with the sensitivity thing plus since the new inquests started its not permitted to discuss the cause/who was to blame etc on tv/radio or on social media sites.

    As for Suarez yes he dives but I don't think you'll find any of us condoning it or encouraging it, but he's our best player and we're bound to forgive him, he's under the microscope every game and his reputation will always make him public enemy number one in the premier league.
    As you know, other players are prone to going over easy and not all of them are Uruguayan, he's not even the first player to bite an opponent in the premier league, guess who is.<whistle>
     
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  15. Boss

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    My comment probably came out wrong as it goes without saying the incident was tragic and all football fans hope the inquest returns the right outcome for all associated with Liverpool and families affected <ok> but I was trying to say that it also goes without saying we all know Suarez is a great footballer and that Liverpool play great football, just it gets tiring when people have to say such comments before they can be viewed as being fair.

    ...........It must be a dirty player, a thug, someone who is known for being a horrible little man?.......no? ok the wag magnet Defoe!
     
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  16. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Cheers boss.<ok>

    And yep it was Defoe, but he didn't mean it and his teeth aren't big.<laugh>
     
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  17. No Kane No Gain

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    I really don't think he is. Pundits and journalists have been more than happy to make excuses for him and if anything, as the Brad Guzan penalty showed, the microscope is used to show how he's not dived. Infact I've heard the samething I've highlighted being said just as much by pundits and journalists who are supposedly out to get him.

    If you want to see someone getting picked on in the media then AVB's your man, just look at the reaction after every head injury before and since Lloris. When AVB leaves a player on the pitch every journalist was tearing into him for negligence ignoring the fact that they reported Lukaku's story about how he didn't remember scoring goal with some amusement. It isn't even about Spurs as last week when we beat Sunderland both Kane and Brown had a nasty clash of heads and both players stayed on with no question to the managers after the game. The real pisstake though was that the commentator thought it was a good idea to make a joke about Kane not being able to remember scoring his first PL game because of it. A ****ing head injury joke! It's unbelievable that not one person from the media heard that and thought it was worth criticising after the **** they gave AVB. I've gone a bit off topic though :D
     
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  18. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    Not really. LFC have posted loses all associated with both the purchase of the club and writing off the stadium debts incurred by the Cowboys. At the same time they have significantly raised their commercial income despite the absence of CL football. I think you should look at the latest Forbes valuations (or the Deloitte ones) of the club and compare that with FSG's purchase cost.
     
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  19. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    You lost £90mill over 2 seasons, there's no "not really" about it.
     
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  20. Sidney Fiddler

    Sidney Fiddler Well-Known Member

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    I would rather lose money and truly challenge .
    I don't care if LEWIS/LEVY have one less yacht or Bentley .
    They both have an obscene level of wealth.

    We must not feel bitter towards Liverpool's success as our model is sadly a complete failure.
     
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