I realise having Wenger as a manager is not the best for Arsenal anymore. If you notice that most of the good young managers have started this pressing game, it seem to had started again at Barcelona when Pep was in charge, with his 5 seconds rule of winning back the ball and relentless pressing style. Kopp does the same for his club in Germany. Arsenal now if we ain't got the ball we seem to hope the opposition players on the ball will come are way. He never seem to work out solutions on the pitch our Captains act like they never watch football before as the manager and Captains never does any homework on the opposition why don't the captains we got 3 of them say to the first team we will watch some game of the opposition to see there strength and weakness. We come in with are one plan game for any team and we wonder why we not good enough yes we have beaten some good side over the years but maybe with a different plan sometimes we can go all the way and not that plan when we last won the FA Cup! Now yes we have had injuries Dably (maybespeltwrong) don't exist Ramsey, Ozil was probably the right time for him to have a rest but Walcott only played 9 league games this season we only got two wingers both are right hand side. Our manager has become incompetent of doing all the things he was good at. Can't teach an old dog new tricks!
His methods we new when he first came to Arsenal. The problem is that they have become dated while other managers have moved forward. Football is not the same game it was 10-15 years ago. While we have stood still, everyone else has moved on.
Tactics are also so important these days, and Wenger never bothers with it. He only focuses on his team and does not worry about the opposition, in the belief that if we play well, we will win, no matter what. That is naive and his tactics against Chelsea away was abysmal and he got shown up by his arch enemy. The game has indeed moved on and Wenger has sadly been left behind.
I think it's time for Arsenal to push on. Wenger's stewardship over the transition of team and stadium has been excellent given the outlay of ££, titles cups records and great football. It's set up for the future. he deserves to be praised for that but.. It's time for him to hand it over to someone else now, a proven manager who will be given significant funds to build on Wenger's legacy and the makings of a very good side he'd be leaving to the new manager. Time to freshen things up. But that's just imo, what do I know
Can't we keep all the wenger in out comments to one of the already created threads for that purpose? Some good points but seems like it'd fit into the ongoing discussion in one of the other threads
it must be a killer though, had there been investment in even just two of the last 9 seasons of significant funds into players the last 9 years would be very different for Arsenal.
I'm not convinced about Rodgers to be honest. I will give him props for moving Gerrard into a DM position. He has really excelled this Season - In fact Gerrard has been one of the best players in the league this year. But... I think City were very poor yesterday and the way Liverpool were set up in almost a 442 - They would get blown away in Europe by the top sides. (As Mourinho showed in December and will probably show again in April) For me Rogers is a bit old school. He is doing well with it because both Suarez and Sturridge are smashing them in but I think the setup is very 1990's
It's not really just Suarez and Sturridge though is it? Our top scorers in the league this season: Suarez 29 Sturridge 20 Gerrard 13 Sterling 7 Skrtel 7 Coutinho 5 Arsenal: Giroud 13 Ramsey 8 As a Liverpool fan I am more impressed with Rodgers, how we use Henderson, Sterling and Coutinho, all desperate to win the ball back and attack as quick as possible.
There is a LOT more to Rogers than just Sturridge and Suarez. Here's just one example: http://outsideoftheboot.com/2014/03...lemented-the-diamond-and-defeated-man-united/
That's not even what I said. I said the setup was all a bit 1990's. Although yeah I do think without Suarez you would be maybe 6-7th. We have simular issues Wenger is very stubborn in his approach but I do think against the more tactical European sides Rodgers will get found out. (I think Mourinho will beat you again in April for example)
Good article, Sky on the day v united at OT had shown on graphics our formation as 4 3 3. Which was wrong. What is critical is when we have been losing or under pressure Rodgers made changes that had an impact and in most cases got us the points. We should have won at the Etihad too and he completely done Pellegrini in the first half at Anfield, and when City changed things and came back to 2 2 he changed it again and we got the points albeit with a bit of luck but you make your own luck, he pushed Coutinho forward and shored up the midfield, a move that led to stemming City and in the end got us the goal. Tactics training man management match management, all have had an effect on our season, kind of irritates when people say it is all down to Suarez or pace Rodgers uses those traits to best advantage and we can go from defense to threatening the opponents goal in 5 6 seconds on a counter
When you're an Arsenal fan, it's a lot more comforting to blame your poor league performance on Liverpool for not selling Suarez than it is to look at your club and see that the problems run much deeper.
It's just funny to see supporters of any club who have no expertise look at a club doing very well and all the intricacies that contribute to that and say ah well, it's down to simply this or that. Everything done from Monday to Sunday by the players staff and manager all contribute to success. In the summer it was all Suarez and when eh wants out we'll be mid table again. Step up Daniel Sturridge. Step up Raheem Sterling, step up Jordan henderson, Coutinho Gerrard ect ect. Everyone in the squad is an improved player, every one. How the manager and staff are not responsible for that is beyond me.
Surely they haven't been coached and drilled by and decent manager and coaching staff and improved as players because of it? What is this witchcraft!?
As far as Rodgers is concerned then I have to accept that the jury is still out and will be until he has a few successful seasons under his belt. However, the changes that he has made with Liverpool have been good for both the team and the players. One of the things that you all appear to have missed is that whilst he has settled on the diamond in the latter part of this season, he has employed a number od different formations during the season - whilst still playing to the teams strengths (we wont talk about the 3 CB experiment). But if you watch the diamond you'll notice that it's not rigid either game to game or even during a game. Personally, I think that Wengers time has come at Arsenal. He's been a great manager for you both on and off the pitch but I get the feeling that he has nothing more to contribute and therefore feels let down that for all his work the players (his team) is failing to produce it for him on the pitch.
Look at their injury record compared to our as well, that can't just be down to a few extra games in Europe
It does seem like Arsenal have been injury prone for quite a few seasons. I don't know if that's down to the training methods, the qulity of your medical staff (I doubt that), or if the players have individual conditioning coaches. I have heard it suggested that part of the problem might be that you have a boot-camp type pre-season training which gives you an early fitness advantage but does not build long term stamina and resiliance.
More than the tactical side of the game, is the belief that he has instilled in the players at his disposal. That can triumph against any odds.
