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  1. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

    Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed Well-Known Member

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    Since the dismissal of Chris Hughton I've read all kinds of crap in the national media about our situation and our club. At best, the national media have been naive but some of it has been so wide of the mark that I find my head spinning. Baring in mind as a Norwich City fan, I speak as a Hughton sympathiser, it really is staggering to find out how little the media know about our club, Hughton's reign or what the club is doing.

    Here's a perfect example of someone (ex England defender Paul Parker) who simply 'doesn't get it'. Staggering in its stupidity and I'm not sure he's written a single thing that is actually accurate in this piece. Feel free to highlight any others you stumble across!

    https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blog...mcnally-massive-ego-could-see-065616430.html?
     
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  2. canary-dave

    canary-dave Well-Known Member

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    Wow! What a total bellend! I quite liked him as a player, as a pundit he is so far down, he is below the scale!
     
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  3. tipsycanary

    tipsycanary Well-Known Member

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    Love a good bit of comedy in the morning! I agree with him it is probably a job Adams never wanted. Why would a guy who has been around the club for 20 years ever want to manage them. Could certainly do with less arrogant CEO's who come into clubs turn round a £23 million deficit and help take them to the premier league without risking the clubs finances. haha
     
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  4. THURNBY CANARY

    THURNBY CANARY Active Member

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    And this is why I do not read newspapers and do not listen to pundits. My exception is the Monday Night Club on 5LIve which is decent on the whole and Mark Chapman keeps it on the ball. This link is a classic example of total tosh.
     
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  5. Home on the range canary

    Home on the range canary Well-Known Member

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    CEOs generally have massive egos with psychopathic traits, PP is right. Was it right to sack CH? Impossible to know, but putting NA into that position is potentially hugely problematic. As far as I can see the article presents one side of a case, what's the big deal?
     
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  6. Tony_Munky_Canary

    Tony_Munky_Canary Well-Known Member

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    I really enjoy listening to that every Monday as well, and agree that Chappers is good on that - it's just when he teams up with that muppet Savage that he turns into a tool.

    I've never liked Paul Parker to be be honest, his deflection potentially cost us World Cup glory in 1990 and I've never forgiven him.
     
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    Tony_Munky_Canary Well-Known Member

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  8. canarie-chippy

    canarie-chippy Well-Known Member

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    Paul Merson is also slagging us off in his predictions this week.
    Gives Fulham a 2-0 win and has us as relegated.
    He can't believe what we've done before the Fulham game, says he could understand us sacking him after it? But not before !
    Has he not seen how bad we've been away? Why do these pundits think that CH was suddenly going to arrest this shocking form at Fulham?
    Now I'm not saying we will beat them but I deffinately don't think we could have beat them with Hughton in charge.
    This has IMO given us a fighting chance.
     
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  9. royalbarclayfan

    royalbarclayfan Well-Known Member

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    I don´t agree with a lot of what´s been written either Super, but it´s really only to be expected, for, to those looking on from the outside this must seem like the craziest decision yet this year. To replace an experienced manager, who in the almost two years he´s been here, had never once let us drop into the bottom three, and who, at the time of his sacking had us 5 pts clear of the relegation places with 5 games to play, with an U18´s coach who´s a novice at this level, must seem to many like a ludicrous decision. I know that we know there´s slightly more to it than that, but nevertheless, the fans have had a big part to play in this decision being made, if they´d been supportive of Hughton throughout, I can´t believe here´s any way McNally would have made this decision at this time. Yes, he might have done if we´d been 5 pts adrift of safety, but not when we are 5 pts clear of the relegation places. I hope for everyone´s sake that this gamble pays off, because if it does happen to fail, and we´re relegated then both he and we, at least in the national media´s eyes, will look very very silly indeed.

    I´m not disputing that he and the Board made this decision, in what they thought, were the best interests of the fans and the Club. I just hope they´re proved right., that´s all.
     
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  10. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

    Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed Well-Known Member

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    as you know rbf, i personally felt hughton would keep us up and i would have kept him till the end of the season once the decision had been made to back him post-january. i have no argument with pundits and journalists expressing shock or even distaste for the timing of the decision or who we've replaced an experienced coach with. my issue with this article and many others like it is the complete misunderstanding of our situation. to claim our ceo has an ego is not exactly rocket science but to say that we are somehow morphing into a real madrid/chelsea basket case or that he hasn't backed the ex manager is absolute drivel - hughton had been under immense pressure for a long, long time from supporters and local media, yet the board stuck by him until such a time that they felt they could do so no longer. they ignored for a long time the calls for his head. if anything they showed immense patience! on saturday the reaction of the fans backed them into a corner and they acted as they felt fit. the failure to understand that hughton WAS given time and WAS fully backed by our ceo has been completely ignored and instead they have attacked our club for the wrong reasons. even hughton's stronger backers such as i, had long reached the conclusion we would have a new manager come the summer anyway - it was just a case of timing. appointing adams is no different really to swansea appointing garry monk, but that decision didn't carry anywhere near the same criticism and i'm unsure why.
     
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  11. Swedish Dave

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    McNally had already become a target for the media a few weeks earlier over the comments about him looking for a new manager. I'd listened to the whole interview a few days before the national media got hold of it and, even as a Hughton supporter, I hadn't considered what he said to be anything other than common sense. The national media interpreted it quite unfairly IMO and a lot of people will have started forming a caricature of him based on that.
     
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  12. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    It's true. McNally is now a favourite target of the mainstream media and the more useless/ill-informed "pundits".

    He's not perfect, but hell we owe him
     
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  13. Home on the range canary

    Home on the range canary Well-Known Member

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    why do people care what Paul parker says? McNally has sacked managers at two football clubs, and he presents himself in a less guarded manner than some other CEO's hardly surprising that folk will take scant information and turn it into bollox If journalism was based on in depth research, then most forms of media would disappear into the ether
     
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    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    I only care because the media shape other fans' opinions of us. It's pretty tedious having to go through the same explanation with each colleague/mate who tells me our CEO is obviously a ****er and that Hughton should have had a job for life
     
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    Home on the range canary Well-Known Member

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    Easy to answer, he's a complete bastard who has saved the club, and I loved CH. Next!!! or they're both fecking useless. use whatever version you like. If I ever start a football conversation given I live and work in Manchester/liverpool, within 30 secs the conversation has moved on to a vaguely related issue, but to do with their team, so I give up or try to hone my sarcasm
     
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  16. Hucks for Manager!

    Hucks for Manager! Well-Known Member

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    "But suddenly they could get tarred with the same brush as Chelsea and Real Madrid as a club who like sacking managers for the sake of it rather than being friendly and loyal, and not being rushed into decisions."

    Eh? Because we sacked Bryan Gunn almost four years ago, and now we've fired Chris Hughton after everybody else in the bottom seven has already dispensed with their manager (Fulham twice)?!? What a load of crap; his argument doesn't make any sense.

    I don't know whether sacking Hughton now is a good idea (I would have got rid after Fulham away in the cup) but I do know that our season rests on the game tomorrow. We might well lose, or even get thumped, but after watching whatever the hell that was against West Brom things were looking pretty scary.

    What I simply don't understand is how everyone thought Hughton was doing such a great (or even an alright) job. Can someone please play devil's advocate for me and present one fact (from the media or otherwise) that suggests Hughton should have stayed? (The one about us never being in the bottom 3 during his tenure doesn't count because it is grossly incorrect).
     
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  17. DHCanary

    DHCanary Very Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    It wasnt about the sacking more the timing of the sacking! <ok> Everyone knew that Hughton was a dead man walking!
     
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  19. canary_max

    canary_max Well-Known Member

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    only inside east anglia

    timing, as ipswich will find out shortly whether they make the play-offs or not, walky old chum
     
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  20. Goldeneye175

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    Finally a sensible viewpoint:

    "One of these two teams may very well complete the trio of clubs to do down. At the moment it's Fulham who occupy 18th place, five points behind Norwich. The departure of Chris Hughton from the Norwich hot-seat last Sunday night provoked mixed reactions, which from what I can gather seem to fall into two camps.

    1) There is the reaction from outside Norfolk, which was largely shock at the timing of Hughton's exit, and the feeling that Norwich had panicked.

    2) Then there is the reaction from Norfolk itself, which seems to be that the Canaries were 100% certain to be returning to the Championship under Hughton, and that the appointment of club favourite Neil Adams for the rest of the season is less of a gamble than sticking with the previous regime. "

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26898533
     
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