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  1. Billy Death

    Billy Death Well-Known Member

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    DMD = cock sucker.
     
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  2. Baz The Mackem

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    How can lads like me who are born & bred from Sunderland be called Geordie's? we ****ing speak different for a start you ****ing clueless ****.

    By the way do you speak like Jimmy Savile hull fans?
     
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  3. Brian Storm

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    Now then, now then Baz, lets not cross the line:p
     
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  4. Baz The Mackem

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    <laugh> how's about that then <laugh>
     
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  5. clockstander

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    I have lived in Sunderland for over 70 years and I had never heard the word makem until a few years back, we have never been geordies, but wearsiders, being from a seafaring family I have always had a soft spot for Hull and Grimsby, but your childish football supporters are beginning to test my resolve.
     
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  6. DMD

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    Sunderland fans used to sing about being Geordies, that's just a simple fact posters on here even confirm. Getting abusive about that being pointed out says more about your IQ than mine.

    You should be proud of your heritage.
     
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  7. marcusblackcat

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    Jesus it's like drawing teeth! Should I spell it out for you...

    Some Geordies are Sunderland fans. Not all Sunderland fans are Geordies. Those who sang about being Geordies were the Geordie contingent of a Sunderland crowd. I am not a geordie as I was born in Durham - neither am I a mackem. So, in essence, yes the Geordie contingent of Sunderland fans used to sing about being geordies - as they are geordies. The non-geordie contingent did not sing about being geordies.

    your comments are stating that all Sunderland people are geordies. so, if you want to bring up IQ, try a test using the following simple question:

    Which one of these statements is true?

    All north eastern people are geordies
    All people born in Sunderland are Geordies
    Some people who support Sunderland are geordies.

    There you go - not difficult is it
     
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  8. DMD

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    It's all three.

    It wasn't a handful, it was the whole stand that used to sing it.
     
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  9. marcusblackcat

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    Bollocks. It was a noisy number of people at the back of the stand - not any "whole stand" - although I guess, back then, 300 people in the fulwell end probably felt like a whole stand to Hull! None of us deny that some Sunderland fans are Geordies - but you are simply a f**kwit with no idea what you're talking about. NEVER in my 33 years watching Sunderland, has there once been a "whole stand" singing about being geordies. 300 noisy people doesn;t constitue a "whole stand" you know.

    Do some research you sad person as you are totally clueless about our club
     
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  10. Billy Death

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    You truly are a pig ignorant Yorkshire pudding arsehole.
    Small club, small town in Yorkfuckingshire.

    **** off you ****ing tosser.
    Up yours you ****ing bell end ****.
     
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  11. DMD

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    You're talking about a different situation.

    I'm talking of when Sunderland came to Boothferry Park. They travelled in their thousands and ALL would sing about being Geordies. Others have already said as much in another thread on here.

    It's not that long ago, anyone from the North East and some bits beyond was called a Geordie.
     
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  12. Billy Death

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    And not that long ago that a sad twat from Ull was called a Yorkshire puffta so **** off bonny lad.
     
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  13. marcusblackcat

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    Not by us! My Dad is 59 and has never been a geordie. My Granda was 82 when he died and he was never a Geordie.

    So a few thousand at Boothferry park sing for the rest of us? FFS you are thick! I went to Boothferry Park in the 80's. Saw Iain Hesford save a penalty from Gordon Armstrong with his belly (89 I think it was) - I remember that day very well and there was no way the "whole stand" was singing about being geordies. Maybe a vocal contingent but not the whole lot
     
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  14. DMD

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    I'm talking through the 70's and eighties and it wasn't just at Boothferry Park that it was sung. Your grandparents may well not have chosen to call themselves Geordies, but it doesn't alter the fact that, by many definitions, they were seen as Geordies.
     
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  15. Rick O'Shea

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    So basically DMD cant keep up with the times. France used to be Gaul.
     
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  16. DMD

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    Some French still say they are, just as Sunderland still falls within the geographic region for geordies. Just because some of you use mackem, doesn't mean the other term doesn't exist.
     
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  17. marcusblackcat

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    Where does the geographical region for "geordies" Start and End? Who actually created this? Is it in your little mind?

    I'm neither a Mackem or a Geordie - I am from Durham - does that also make me a geordie in your eyes?

    Being "seen as" a geordie doesn't make you a geordie BTW. It is just the small, narrow minded view some people have that "you sound like you're from the north east so you're a geordie"

    I have been on holiday to various places and people call me a geordie simply because of my north eastern accent - I'm not a geordie though - so just because they see me as a geordie, doesn't make it a fact
     
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  18. jimileysbaldhead

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    DMD can you please expand on " by many definitions, they were seen as Geordie ".

    I'm a Newcastle supporter and am struggling to agree with you in any shape or form.
     
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  19. DMD

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    It's only Wiki, but they've got it from other sources that say similar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geordie

    Geographical coverage[edit]When referring to the people, as opposed to the dialect, dictionary definitions of a Geordie typically refer to "a native or inhabitant of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, England, or its environs",[5] an area that encompasses Blyth, Ashington, North Tyneside, Newcastle, South Tyneside and Gateshead.[6][7]

    The term itself, using Brockett, originated from all the North East coal mines. Depending on who is using it, the catchment area for the term "Geordie" can be as large as the whole of North East England[10] or as small as the city of Newcastle upon Tyne and the metropolitan boroughs of Tyneside.[1]

    People from Sunderland have been nicknamed Mackem in recent decades. The earliest known recorded use of the term found by an Oxford English Dictionary word hunt occurred only as late as 1988.[11][12] People from Middlesbrough are nicknamed Smoggies due to its industrial heritage.

    Just as a Cockney is often colloquially defined as someone "born within the sound of the Bow bells", the term Geordie is sometimes defined as "within spitting distance of the Tyne"[13] and thus Geordieland could be thought of as the watershed and bioregion of the River Tyne, and Geordies as its inhabitants...



    Graham is backed up historically by John Camden Hotten, who wrote in 1869: "Geordie, general term in Northumberland and Durham for a pitman, or coal-miner. Origin not known; the term has been in use more than a century.".[10] Using Hotten[10] as a chronological reference then Geordie has been documented for at least 245 years as meaning the whole of the North East of England.
     
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  20. marcusblackcat

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    "Depending on who is using it!" i.e. everyone from the south. Same in all of the others. The comment re miners being called geordies - not by local inhabitants. Speaking to generations from Sunderland you'll find that the term geordie is not a descriptive word given to North East people by anyone other than non-notrth east people. We all understand the difference.

    Mackems came from the shipyards - long befor 1988 which makes Wiki a load of ****e all in all!

    Wiki also had some top end footballers playing for us - I may go in and edit that reference to say that all Hull inhabitants are *****philes! It wouldn't make it true but it can be done!
     
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