Bony to have the team built around him for next season says Monk.

I have a similar recollection,Valley.
Bony was used "sparingly" for some time,and most on here were of the opinion that was to enable him to get up to speed,fit in,etc.
Perhaps there was more to it than that,but we'll never know now.
The season is petering out,and has been such a huge disappointment.
The biggest disappointment for me was the sacking of Michael Laudrup.

 

Bony missed a lot of pre-season preparation with the squad because there were problems with his paperwork. Surprise, surprise!! Laudrup then later publicly announced (in the press) that Bony was being placed on a special training regime to get him up to speed.

As for Bony being a Jenkins' signing, the fact that our chairman bitched long and loud about the outlay tends to argue against that. Jenkins wants to do the Premier League on a budget. I just wish someone would tell him that it can't be done.

Like you, Vetch, I was disappointed that Laudrup was dismissed. It is my hope that Monk would take us on but, so far, that doesn't seem likely. I can but hope that an experienced hand is brought in for next season, preferably one that will have zero tolerance for player power. But then that depends on Jenkins having the nous to listen to the people hired to manage the club.....

 

Between Bony being unfit early and Michu being injured late , I dont think they played a lot of minutes together. If they did they would be a very good combo . From Huws whinging about paying so much for Bony , one can only assume Laudrup brought Bony in . Laudrup needed to get him fit so brought him along slowly to be ready for all 3 competetions in full flight imo , sound thinking I think .

 

My own feelings about bony and michu playing together is this, as far as i can see they are two different types of strikers and it will take time for them both to reach an understanding between not only them but also the midfield players who are the main ball suppliers to either of them, Unfortunately michu got injured and that cut short any work the two players were trying to do to get some understanding between them and that was a blow to the both at the time, I don't think we should read too much into their partnership this season and look to next season assuming the are both with us, If it don't work out between them then all is not lost as they both offer options up front as individuals. I think we will survive and with everything that has taken place this season we should put it all down to circumstances and start afresh next season. we cant lose with both bony and michu whatever happens...

 

Michu is not a striker ....he must play with Bony and not instead . Dyer should have started instead of De Guzzy , its not like we were playing Norwich and de Guzman had an easy time of it . Play Dyer there and put De Guzman in at right back.

 

De Guzman at right back?

 

Not agreeing or disagreeing RJ but when and what did HJ say about spending the money on Bony. I've looked back through our posts at the time and http://www.quotetimes.com/feed/findbykeywords.action;jsessionid=1d64ampyd9b09dg3enrr5n2jk?keywords=huw+jenkins#this and can't find any quote from him whinging about the money. In fact I can't find anything remotely akin to a whinge from him, put me right buddy.

I do recall that Aspas was Laudrups main target but, of course, he ended as an extra on the training field for Liverpool. From what I surmised it was our contacts in Holland who found Bony and, due to lack of signings, we went all out to get him. All this, I guess, to appease Laudrup who directly blamed the board for the lack of signings in the transfer market. As far as I could see at the time, and now, Bony was not a Laudrup target or a Laudrup signing.

 

Jenkins, quoted by the South Wales Evening Post speaking at a fans forum, said: “This summer was the first time where we agreed to spend that money on one player, and personally I don’t like the idea of doing it.

“I don’t think it’s a great thing for our club to be doing season after season.

“Yes, now and again for the right player at the right time, it might be an option.

“But I think we all know our level should be a bit below that.

“We should be finding players who are suitable to us and who arrive for figures that are easier to sleep with.

“Signing Wilfried Bony was a big thing for us, but I would not like to keep paying fees like that all the time.”

 

Don't see where he is whinging there tbh. He's being very sensible in stating that we cannot afford to spend 10-15 million on one single player every season/transfer window.
However, he's also stated if the time was right and it was for the right player, then it would be considered.

 

Let's face it, without Bony we'd have been an embarrassment.
Worth every penny once he got up to speed.

 

We would have been down months ago. Fully agree there Bob.

 

The club has been lucky again in bringing in a player who's goals have kept us in with chance of staying in the PL ,without them we'd have been dead and buried a long time ago , we'll make a tidy profit when he moves on and by then we'll have at least have someone else on the radar .Out of the two if I had to choose I'd keep Bony all day , as much as I think Michu has been fantastic for us we have other players who can create better chances for us ,Pablo for example , Bony's all round play is much better in all positions on the pitch .imo

 

There could be a number of reasons why Bony and Michu don't play very well together. If I had to hazard a guess I'd say it's due to their differing styles. Bony is clearly a powerhouse player who relies on his strength and his aerial threat do dominate the opposing centre back. Michu is a player who, having played in Spain for most of his career, prefers to play short intricate passes with plenty of movement off the ball.

The wide players might get confused as to our tactics when they both play together. Do they hold their width and play crosses into the box for Bony to head in, or do they play narrow and create triangles to link with Michu?

It's important that we have a plan B when teams seem to suss our passing style, and Bony brings that. I don't think your record signing should be a benefit solely for your team's plan B though..

And this is the conundrum.. Both players clearly are on different wavelengths and this happens sometimes in football. I think now it's up to the management to decide which player has the brightest future at the club and stand by him. I think one of them is bound to go in the summer with no shortage of clubs interested. Maybe the comment by Garry Monk to 'build a team around Bony' is a signifier that he's already made his mind up?

 

The De Guzman at right back comment was a dig at Rangel valley , pure sarcasm .Huw whinged about getting Bony , he agreed to get him , but still whinged about it . What a high end gem Bony is too , double our money if he goes

 

With rewards for being in the Premier League worth circa £60/70 million, buying one "Bony" a year is NOT unaffordable and is probably a must if we are to stay there. This is not to say that we go out and splurge money like idiots. It's Jenkins' (meaning the board) job to ensure that we strike the right balance between buying the quality that we need to stay up and being utterly irresponsible like Leeds and Portsmouth were in the past.

I assume that the money we earn is for the benefit of the club, not for the board's pension pots. So far, we have improved training facilities (though I am led to believe that this was done on the cheap by cutting corners) and we propose to increase the ground capacity. So, someone please tell me, what on earth is the point of earmarking funds for ground expansion if we end up back in the Championship?

I am totally against paying stupid money and wages to football mercenaries, always have been as is well documented on this forum, but to remain in the Premier League requires, like it or not, a certain level of expenditure. Jenkins HAS to get his head around this. There is no way around it. Controlled investment in quality players is the most certain way of retaining Premier League status, which is one of the reasons why I don't want Monk as our manager next season. He just does not have the contacts or the knowledge of the market at this level.

If Jenkins feels that he can't do the job that is required of him (I doubt he would ever admit it and lose his cushy number) then he really should consider making way for someone who can - just as any player who has served us well but can't offer anything more, would be moved on.

We need to evolve as a club and get better season by season. We will not do this by signing the Emnes' and N'Gogs of this world. Quality usually brings success and our situation demands that we prudently invest in it on a regular basis. Failure to do so will result in visits to Barnsley and Millwall etc in the near future, something I'm sure we would all like to avoid. For me, the answer is clear: buy a "Bony" a season and it will be a huge help in keeping us where we are.

 

What I was told that bony was a signing made by the club, they wanted a marquee signing , it was not laudrups preferred choice but a player he was happy to go ahead and work with.

Laudrup wanted other targets as first choice but they wernt brought in,the club did the leg work to go all out on bony and ended up paying more than the original price .

Jenkins is not keen on spending big amounts of money but apparently it was agreed that it was the right time for the club to make a marquee top level signing.

They were very lucky to get a guy on wages that fitted our structure though I'm guessing he had a signing on bonus that gave him an extra 10k week .

Wages are apparently the biggest problem not transfer fees, I totally understand that in fairness. I mean who the he'll would sign a player on 50k a week over 5 yrs when they have no idea what league they will play in the following season?....>

 

Everyone is told something , whether it's true or not . I look at what I can see . I see Bony come to the team , I see Huw complain about having to pay for him , I THINK Bony wasn't Huws idea. If I think Huw didn't bring Bony in , I think Laudrup did . I think most think Laudrup didn't bring Bony in because of his lack of playing time at first , I think Laudrup was easing him into his 3 competition role in a long season to come .

 

Jenkins, quoted by the South Wales Evening Post speaking at a fans forum, said: “This summer was the first time where we agreed to spend that money on one player, and personally I don’t like the idea of doing it.

“I don’t think it’s a great thing for our club to be doing season after season.

“Yes, now and again for the right player at the right time, it might be an option.

“But I think we all know our level should be a bit below that.

“We should be finding players who are suitable to us and who arrive for figures that are easier to sleep with.

“Signing Wilfried Bony was a big thing for us, but I would not like to keep paying fees like that all the time.”

 

Laudrup was happy to work with Bony, but he wasnt his prefered choice . In fairness,teams like Swansea wont always get the first choice pick anyway .

 

Huw is the mouth piece not the mover and shaker ,once you understand that you understand the dynamic better then everything makes sense. People forget that there is a collective not just one person making all the decisions!

Everyone is told something indeed but it depends who is telling you