It's a bit ironic that Merc's turbo design is unlikely to be used on the high-street car as that kind of performance gain is not required and would be unecessarily complicated, when the reason for turbo cars was so the technology coudl be passed down through the car industry! Could be used on supercars etc where the layout would be an advantage with the way the heat is dissapated differently and the cold air feed would benefit power to a great extent.
Good effort last weekend 2012 [TABLE="width: 600"] [TR] [TD="bgcolor: #404040, align: left"]Pole position[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1 [/TD] [TD="align: left"]Sebastian Vettel[/TD] [TD="align: left"]Red Bull/Renault[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1'32.422[/TD] [TD="align: right"]210.806[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="bgcolor: #404040, align: left"]Fastest lap[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1 [/TD] [TD="align: left"]Sebastian Vettel[/TD] [TD="align: left"]Red Bull/Renault[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1'36.379[/TD] [TD="align: right"]202.151[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] 2013 [TABLE="width: 600"] [TR] [TD="bgcolor: #404040, align: left"]Pole position[/TD] [TD="align: right"]9 [/TD] [TD="align: left"]Nico Rosberg[/TD] [TD="align: left"]Mercedes[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1'32.330[/TD] [TD="align: right"]211.017[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="bgcolor: #404040, align: left"]Fastest lap[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1 [/TD] [TD="align: left"]Sebastian Vettel[/TD] [TD="align: left"]Red Bull/Renault[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1'36.961[/TD] [TD="align: right"]200.938[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] 2014 [TABLE="width: 600"] [TR] [TD="bgcolor: #404040, align: left"]Pole position[/TD] [TD="align: right"]6 [/TD] [TD="align: left"]Nico Rosberg[/TD] [TD="align: left"]Mercedes[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1'33.185[/TD] [TD="align: right"]209.080[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="bgcolor: #404040, align: left"]Fastest lap[/TD] [TD="align: right"]6 [/TD] [TD="align: left"]Nico Rosberg[/TD] [TD="align: left"]Mercedes[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1'37.020[/TD] [TD="align: right"]200.816[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]
So the question is, will that concept be made illegal if it isn't used for road cars worldwide. It seems more of a white elephant like the EBD if it has no purpose in a road car.
Of course it has relevance in road car use, it's much more efficient !!!!! and its not yet been maximized, but it will require engines to be redesigned, however it WILL eventually be applied to road engines.
Its theoretically correct with regards to the reduced piping needed, lower initial intake temps and therefore smaller intercooler needed etc.
But on a 1.2 3-pot motor that at best develops 100bhp, would the additional costs, installation etc be worth it? On a front engined road car, the cold air feed is already at the front of the engine, so the benefit of having seperate turbine/compressors is unlikely to have much of an impact. I can see it being useful on a mid/rear engined car, but how many of us drive those on a daily occasion? What is efficient for an F1 motor at 11,000 rpm, with all the hear that generates will be different to a small engine where 2-3k rpm is what most people will use it at. Normal turbo technology would help as it can be directly put across, but I can't see much use for Merc's solution on a boggo road car.
No, it's just better in an F1 setup where there is minimal cooling and tight packaging is required. You don't have those issues with a standard road car. Mercedes have found an extreme solution to make their package better. Doubtless to make and produce it's a lot more expensive than an all-in-one turbo, which the consumer is unlikely to want to pay extra for on their road car.
Exactly ASC to what I was thinking, so the question is will the FIA "allow" that concept to carry on when trying to make F1 more road relevant at the same time? Will we get to a point mid season like with RBR and the EBD being banned for not being relevant to road cars? So we might be left come Silverstone, Mercedes having to use the same basic turbo concept it's own buyers have to use and the rest of the grid maybe? Considering how much Mercedes are thumping the competition I bet you any not606 money that something will happen about this advantage, either the engine rules will be relaxed to allow Renault and Ferrari to catch up and copy this, or Mercedes will be given a deadline to modify the chassis to accommodate the lesser design the other Mercedes team have to deal with.
@TheSpeedTracker: Bahrain FP2, Hamilton was using just 1.6kg per lap compared Rosberg's 1.75kg, amounts to 91kg for HAM and 99kg for Rosberg in race distance
Another kick in the nuts for everyone who was predicting (vainly hoping?) that Hamilton would fail as he would use too much fuel and continue to chew tyres
Guess that might have contributed to Rosberg's slight drop off at the end, they must have been really concerned about running out.
did he not see his red bull drivers battling? Alonso vs Hulk? Massa, Bottas, Perez and Hulk for the podium? It was a good race regardless of the last few laps.
Would mean the fia banning a device that improves efficiency, not a good look for them. At least the blown diffuser wasted fuel
No, it's just better in an F1 setup where there is minimal cooling and tight packaging is required. You don't have those issues with a standard road car. It's a fact cooler intake air fuel mixture has a greater expansion efficiency when its fired, = larger volume of explosion = greater piston speed and travel = more power. It applies to all turbo engine's I have come across What bit of that don't you understand.
