Probably not, but he is still relatively new to management and is operating in a very competitive league. What he is doing with Everton is very impressive and if he carries this on for another year or two, his stock will rise hugely. Also he has real talent, this is clear to see.
The word is IF though. He could go on to be a world class manager I'm just saying that as far as I'm concerned the jury is still out on him
Do you really think Wigan could have survived on their gate receipts ? Google Wigan's finances and see how much Whelan has given them
I'm not arsed about their accounts, all I was pointing out was the FACT that the bankrolling of the club by Whelan didn't result in a transfer budget for Martinez - AS HE HAD A NEGATIVE (NOTE NEGATIVE) NET SPEND I.E. HE BROUGHT IN MORE THAN HE SPENT
I agree with CYM, I want to see him for another couple of seasons at Everton to see what he can do. If he continues how he has started then he might be a candidate to be our next manager but I'd rather wait and see how he does for a bit longer first.
If he continues like he's started then I suspect that he'll have far bigger fish to fry than Arsenal in a few years time mate, as might take us ahead of you in the PL pecking order. I think you'll have change at the top this summer, Wenger looks like he's about done to me, never seen him as downbeat as he was yesterday, both during and after the game
I wouldn't get carried away. He is having a good season but I wouldn't go as far as to say your going to overtake us in the prem pecking order. Arsenal are far bigger club than Everton with far more financial muscle and I can't see how Everton could consistently be above them unless they are able to vastly improve there finances. And he is one of the managers I'd be watching if I was arsenal along with klopp to see how he copes with losing his best players and guardiola to see at what point he may or may not want to manage in England. And I'm sure there are a couple of others worth keeping an eye on as well. So if one target is not available we'd potentially have others. I'd also expect us to be working on securing our next manager whilst wenger is still with us, so it may be that within a year to 18 months negotiations have started (provided wenger doesn't go at the end of this season). Also there aren't many fish bigger than arsenal and the ones that are tend to go for very high profile managers or promote from within.
A CL place could be the catalyst for massive change at Everton. Not only from the income from the competition, but sponsorship opportunities / rates increase, and we might finally be able to attract an owner with the nous and resources to take us forwards. Our clubs were on a par until the CL era kicked in, you've had the benefit of 20 years of it and off the pitch have used those resources to best effect, whilst we'd be playing 'catch up' Everton is just a massive club that missed the gravy train. Whilst you're a big club, incredibly well run and with a great stadium - not many bigger? You've not won a pot for nearly a decade mate, and you've now been eclipsed by both Chelsea and City, with Liverpool now about to get right back in there again by the looks of it.
why would he come to Arsenal . At Everton he is on the cusp of promising them great things and getting sh1t loads of credit . At Arsenal it would be , ok ..go see if you can fill Arsenes shoes ...and you have gotta win a loot of stuff to equal his record.. Its a no brainer . Stay put where he is already well thought of. "arent many fish bigger than Arsenal " thats a good one .
A cl place for Everton would be fantastic for them. It would bring in immediate money and ass you have a potential effect on advertising income. But that would barely scratch the gulf in difference between the two clubs. Arsenal have better infrastructure (the stadium etc), a far larger fanbase (top 6 in the world I believe) and have sponsorship deals etc in place that dwarf those at Everton. While it'd be great for your club it'd only be the first of many many steps to be taken before Everton overtake arsenal in financial capability. As for your last paragraph it's irrelevant what any of the other clubs have done to the point I was making. And not winning a trophy in a while has no bearing on it either. Edit: realised your last paragraph was in reply to the not many bigger clubs comment. In terms on turnover, supporters, value, stadium, sponsorship etc arsenal are right up amongst the biggest clubs in the world. Having not won a trophy recently doesn't stop that.
There aren't many fish bigger than arsenal. You'd have to be a real ****ing thicko not to realise that. It's not a matter of opinion it's fact. Based on value, supporters, turnover, stadium, sponsorship arsenal are right up amongst the very best clubs in the world.
I can't think of many more appealing clubs than arsenal actually. Big stadium, nice city, big fan base, lots of money, fans who will put up with no trophies for a period (as we have for years already), quite a few top class players ready present. Someone like Klopp or Martinez could make a dynasty here. Just imagine if Klopp could be tempted... Bring Reus and Bender with him, yes please
But he can't build anything, he's too old to build a dynasty . he's got nothing to prove.he doesn't need the money. Honestly, what is he sticking around for?
But Wenger doesn't even use the best of what's available to him, he's so reluctant to spend and use resources, so what's the point? We are not going to win jack **** and reach the top based on Wenger's spending, I think his total net spend at Arsenal is 58 million quid, yeah from a financial view we can all praise that bla bla, but in this modern day age, you're not going to be able to compete with the top teams based on a net spend of that amount. We have the resources in the summer to go out and spend 80 plus million quid and still be within our means, and that's what we should be doing if we want to build a proper team-squad that can fight right to the end rather than always bottling it come February-March.
What is clear is that your head is so far up your own ass it will have to be surgically removed. dear dear me. Yeah the other teams dread getting drawn against Arsenal these days dont they . wake up you fucking dope. The true measure is NOT the size of your stadium you dimwit . Its the level of fear in your opponent . lets take a look again at how we have frightened our peers over the last 5 seasons. Away games P15 W1 D1 L13 in FIVE YEARS This season 6-3 , 5-1 , 6-0 , and 3-0 .......sh1tting themselves now aint they ? Big club .....little team There are LOADS of clubs bigger than Arsenal , it not sacrilege to admit it you know .
It's true, but Whelan's net outlay over eighteen years of ownership was £33m (we know because he converted the debt to equity a couple years ago). If any club had the ability to return four promotions, two minor and a major trophy, plus eight years in the PL and a League Cup final on an average annual deficit of less than £2m I'd like to see them. And if Arsenal - or Man City or Chelski or United - could get a proportional return on investment they'd be champions of Europe every year. As for Bobby, he has it in him to be one of the greats. But he'll be better judged after that "difficult second season". Me, I just love the bones of the guy, despite purchases like Mauro Boselli and Julius Agahowa.
If you honestly believe Everton is a more attractive prospect than Arsenal you're a ****ing ******. No disrespect but you're a ****ing ****** if that's what you're trying to imply.
